The lost generation
General Motors, moving with glacial speed and in massive indecision, has finally decided to transform the Corvette from one of the best, front-mounted, mid-engined cars, into a traditional rear-mounted, mid-engine car, to compete head-to-head with some of Europe’s best designs, automobiles whose design companies firm grasp of such technology is rooted in deep racing experience and vast amounts of public exposure by way of large (relatively) retail sales of such car designs.
It is as if Ferrari decided that they should not produce more than one sports car at a time. Thank goodness that Ferrari has better sense than GM.
Where is the final evolution of the C7? Where is the chassis design which finally controls and cures that tail-wagging propensity that pins (aided and abetted by driver incompetence) the nose of the car against the nearest obstacle on the side of the road? GM was but one step away from producing the definitive C7, just one design element short of making the Corvette into the best and most affordable of such front-engined sports cars.
What step did they leave untrod? The change from rear-wheel drive alone to something like the Lusso’s 4WD with four-wheel steering. That would have finally, like the F12tdf, GTR and the Superfast, (some of the best examples of front-mounted, mid-engined cars) which would finally have tamed the tail-wagging-prone beast into a traction monster, saving the beautiful nose of the car from ill-conceived forays onto the side of the road, looking for something to hit.
Ferrari licensed GM’s Magnetorheological damper technology from Delphi, before GM so unwisely sold the technology to China; why would GM hesitate to license Ferrari’s 4RM-S technology, or derive something like it, for the Corvette? There’s but 11 inches difference in the Lusso’s and the C7 wheelbases, a design stretch (or something like it) that literally would have placed the otherwise wonderful chassis of the C7 into design heaven.
I oft reminded people that the modern versions of the Corvette are no longer nose-heavy slugs, with their perfect 50/50 balance ratio, but I failed to realize that GM needed to move that fulcrum forward a bit; it seems that something more like a 53-47 or 54-46 R/F ratio is more appropriate to give this design type good traction from its motor placement up-front.
After years of shying away from the rear-engine design, GM decided to throw its best chassis design out without that last tweak that would have transformed a great design into a magnificent one. It is simply inconceivable that GM cannot design, manufacture and sell two sports carts at the same time. If nothing else, this would have allowed GM to hedge its design bet while the mid-engine C8 found its way.
To argue that selling two sports cars at the same time is too risky, all the while discarding the best-but-penultimate chassis design in favor of an unproven one, simply beggar’s belief. Choice is nice; choice is better than gambling. Mary is betting the (sportscar) farm on successfully competing with a plentitude of similar European designs that have already proven their worth.
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Yes, the C7 is a fine car and perhaps a few more years would have made it even better, but the mid-engine design is something that GM has had on its plate for decades. Right or wrong, GM has decided now is the time to move forward with it. Those of us that want to see the next generation Corvette succeed are hoping that the C8 is a very successful launch. While I do not plan to jump into buying a C8 right now, I take solace in the fact that I do have a C7 in my garage and that I am enjoying the heck out of it.





Yes, the C7 is a fine car and perhaps a few more years would have made it even better, but the mid-engine design is something that GM has had on its plate for decades. Right or wrong, GM has decided now is the time to move forward with it. Those of us that want to see the next generation Corvette succeed are hoping that the C8 is a very successful launch. While I do not plan to jump into buying a C8 right now, I take solace in the fact that I do have a C7 in my garage and that I am enjoying the heck out of it.

Yes, the C7 is a fine car and perhaps a few more years would have made it even better, but the mid-engine design is something that GM has had on its plate for decades. Right or wrong, GM has decided now is the time to move forward with it. Those of us that want to see the next generation Corvette succeed are hoping that the C8 is a very successful launch. While I do not plan to jump into buying a C8 right now, I take solace in the fact that I do have a C7 in my garage and that I am enjoying the heck out of it.
Yes, the C7 is a fine car and perhaps a few more years would have made it even better, but the mid-engine design is something that GM has had on its plate for decades. Right or wrong, GM has decided now is the time to move forward with it. Those of us that want to see the next generation Corvette succeed are hoping that the C8 is a very successful launch. While I do not plan to jump into buying a C8 right now, I take solace in the fact that I do have a C7 in my garage and that I am enjoying the heck out of it.
I wrote not one word of complaint about the C8, not one; my entire comment had little-to-nothing to do about the C8.
This is just a simple lament that GM unnecessarily abandoned a design before it was mature. It doesn't have to be a choice between the two; I mentioned that, too. Read, don't project, that's the adult choice.
This is just a simple lament that GM unnecessarily abandoned a design before it was mature. It doesn't have to be a choice between the two; I mentioned that, too. Read, don't project, that's the adult choice.
Yes, the C7 is a fine car and perhaps a few more years would have made it even better, but the mid-engine design is something that GM has had on its plate for decades. Right or wrong, GM has decided now is the time to move forward with it. Those of us that want to see the next generation Corvette succeed are hoping that the C8 is a very successful launch. While I do not plan to jump into buying a C8 right now, I take solace in the fact that I do have a C7 in my garage and that I am enjoying the heck out of it.
It took me awhile to get used to the open headlights on the C6, and the tail lights of the C7. And, I'm quite sure it will take a little time to get used to the complete redesign of the C8. But, I sure I'll come around. Like Jack I won't jump on one early, but I'm sure there will be one in my garage one day.
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that kind of stuff.
the C7 is remarkably close to traction-perfection, but it's not there yet. could have been, though.
I was just hoping that a forum dedicated to just talking about our favorite sports car would not be as venomously stupid as a YouTube comments section, but perhaps I was wrong there.
Thanks for the warm reception, though, for just expressing an opinion concerning the Corvette; it's nice to know there is a place to just talk with other people who like the same car. That's what I thought, anyway.
As Wesley said, in the clever little movie called the "Princess Bride", I'll just have to "get used to disappointment".
GM trying a mid engine car is no different than when they tried the fuel injection on the C1's 283. Guess what every car run today.
I would actually love to see an affordable mid engine V8 powered supercar killer.
I already blow the doors off plenty of fancy and expensive Porsches and AMG on the track with my little cheapo C5z. I can't wait to see what GM will come up with this time.
If I had to complain on anything about the vette, its the prices of the C7. They have gotten too expensive for the middle class.
General Motors, moving with glacial speed and in massive indecision, has finally decided to transform the Corvette from one of the best, front-mounted, mid-engined cars, into a traditional rear-mounted, mid-engine car, to compete head-to-head with some of Europe’s best designs, automobiles whose design companies firm grasp of such technology is rooted in deep racing experience and vast amounts of public exposure by way of large (relatively) retail sales of such car designs.
It is as if Ferrari decided that they should not produce more than one sports car at a time. Thank goodness that Ferrari has better sense than GM.
Where is the final evolution of the C7? Where is the chassis design which finally controls and cures that tail-wagging propensity that pins (aided and abetted by driver incompetence) the nose of the car against the nearest obstacle on the side of the road? GM was but one step away from producing the definitive C7, just one design element short of making the Corvette into the best and most affordable of such front-engined sports cars.
What step did they leave untrod? The change from rear-wheel drive alone to something like the Lusso’s 4WD with four-wheel steering. That would have finally, like the F12tdf, GTR and the Superfast, (some of the best examples of front-mounted, mid-engined cars) which would finally have tamed the tail-wagging-prone beast into a traction monster, saving the beautiful nose of the car from ill-conceived forays onto the side of the road, looking for something to hit.
Ferrari licensed GM’s Magnetorheological damper technology from Delphi, before GM so unwisely sold the technology to China; why would GM hesitate to license Ferrari’s 4RM-S technology, or derive something like it, for the Corvette? There’s but 11 inches difference in the Lusso’s and the C7 wheelbases, a design stretch (or something like it) that literally would have placed the otherwise wonderful chassis of the C7 into design heaven.
I oft reminded people that the modern versions of the Corvette are no longer nose-heavy slugs, with their perfect 50/50 balance ratio, but I failed to realize that GM needed to move that fulcrum forward a bit; it seems that something more like a 53-47 or 54-46 R/F ratio is more appropriate to give this design type good traction from its motor placement up-front.
After years of shying away from the rear-engine design, GM decided to throw its best chassis design out without that last tweak that would have transformed a great design into a magnificent one. It is simply inconceivable that GM cannot design, manufacture and sell two sports carts at the same time. If nothing else, this would have allowed GM to hedge its design bet while the mid-engine C8 found its way.
To argue that selling two sports cars at the same time is too risky, all the while discarding the best-but-penultimate chassis design in favor of an unproven one, simply beggar’s belief. Choice is nice; choice is better than gambling. Mary is betting the (sportscar) farm on successfully competing with a plentitude of similar European designs that have already proven their worth.
While I agree it would have been nice to keep the C7 going along with the C8, (actually I thought they would, for a few years anyway) for whatever reasons GM decided to nix that idea.
Guess we'll just have to see how things pan out with the C8. If nothing else, it will be an interesting watch in the next few years.
Thats the only thing I can think of, other than removing all the heavy airbag and other safety crap to make a true track car.
Last edited by born2beS12; Jul 18, 2019 at 12:35 PM.
that kind of stuff.
the C7 is remarkably close to traction-perfection, but it's not there yet. could have been, though.















