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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Borntorun04/17
I agree if you are presenting a car WITH TCC Shudder, but if you present your car to dealer WITHOUT shudder symptoms , there might be a gray area Bulletin correction section talks about car being presented with shudder complaint. I was answering question regarding cars being covered by bulletin WITH OUT symptoms.
Either you are misinterpreting or we're both saying the same thing, only in different ways.

I suppose if the trans doesn't shudder, the customer shouldn't be bringing the car in for repair in the first place.

The bulletin says "diagnosis beyond the customer complaint is not required". That's it. So assuming the customer says it has a shudder, the flush hasn't been done before, and fits in the eligibility dates, it should be done. IF the dealer requires diagnosis/verification of a shudder to do the repair, he is not following the TSB. No technicalities, gray areas, or anything else. Besides, they get paid quite well to do this procedure, there's no reason for them to be dicks about it.


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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 919cw313
Either you are misinterpreting or we're both saying the same thing, only in different ways.

I suppose if the trans doesn't shudder, the customer shouldn't be bringing the car in for repair in the first place.

The bulletin says "diagnosis beyond the customer complaint is not required". That's it. So assuming the customer says it has a shudder, the flush hasn't been done before, and fits in the eligibility dates, it should be done. IF the dealer requires diagnosis/verification of a shudder to do the repair, he is not following the TSB. No technicalities, gray areas, or anything else. Besides, they get paid quite well to do this procedure, there's no reason for them to be dicks about it.


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I think we are agreeing on dealer should do TF on cars with Shudder. Should be done no question asked once you state car has shudder symptoms. What I'm saying in my case my 17 GS had no symptoms of shudder and question asked /post asked about car being covered by bulletin WITHOUT shudder.. Even though my car had no symptoms I wanted new recommended fluid and TF to possible prevent problems in the future and no future cost to me once my GS is out of warranty. I didn't want problematic fluid. A customer wanting new fluid and TF on car with no symptoms might be a gray area for dealer.

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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Scudz
Does your car have to have the shudder to be eligible for the flush?
Nope. Just tell them it feels like driving on rumble strips occasionally. TSB says all they need is complaint from customer. Just had mine done( no issues just wanted it done) and Service Manager says GM pays well to do it and he is happy to perform warranty work for GM. I reinstalled by Range when I got home.
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 06:58 PM
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I had the triple flush done at my local dealership a couple weeks ago. No charge. Car runs fine now. I was hoping and praying that I would make it home when I noticed the problem. It feels like you are driving over rumble strips. Scary stuff.
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DSPC7
I reinstalled by Range when I got home.
Just playing a little detective here.Did you give the range time to clear before your dealer visit?Or maybe you have a great relationship with said dealer and Range was overlooked? A recent thread here with torque tube issue with a range device is perfect timing on my needing a TF now.
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DALE#3
Just playing a little detective here.Did you give the range time to clear before your dealer visit?Or maybe you have a great relationship with said dealer and Range was overlooked? A recent thread here with torque tube issue with a range device is perfect timing on my needing a TF now.
I saw that thread..... cautionary tale for sure

I pulled my Soler TC, Range and put back fuse 42 a couple days prior to having the Flush done. I wasn’t consciously think about giving the Range time to clear - just didn’t want any obvious “mods” when I went to dealer. I left my Soler TB on - Soler modified it from an OEM throttle body so unless they pull it off they wouldn’t notice it.

Since I had it in I also had the oil and rear end fluid changed (on my dime), so the dealer performed a profitable service.
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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My ‘16 z06 is out of warranty and I noticed the shudder twice. Bought it 2 weeks ago and can’t get any history information. I was able to look online and it didn’t show the mag ride update so I have the following services scheduled on my dime next week:

Trans flush
Mag ride update
Add Android Auto

My question is that since the tans flush is $600+ from what I remember, should I do this on my own? Hard to do? I can change my own oil. Hard or expensive to source the correct updated fluids?

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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WickedSpeed
My ‘16 z06 is out of warranty and I noticed the shudder twice. Bought it 2 weeks ago and can’t get any history information. I was able to look online and it didn’t show the mag ride update so I have the following services scheduled on my dime next week:

Trans flush
Mag ride update
Add Android Auto

My question is that since the tans flush is $600+ from what I remember, should I do this on my own? Hard to do? I can change my own oil. Hard or expensive to source the correct updated fluids?

-Wicked
The biggest expense of this flush is the 24 qts of synthetic oil. GM allots just 1.6 2.7 hours for labor. Changing the oil on the A8 is just not a matter of popping a drain plug. The procedure is elaborate. You should read the TSB. The Corvette portion of the instruction is on the last few pages of the instruction. Most of the pages of instruction covers other GM vehicles. You should be aware of GM's recommendation in the instruction which I have highlighted for you in the pic provided. I would suggest you have GM perform this service.



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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MMD
The biggest cost of this flush is the 24 qts of synthetic oil. GM allots just 1.6 hours for labor...
Corvette is 2.7 hours.
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Originally Posted by MMD
Are you always this wrong?
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(taken from Bulletin No.: 18-NA-355 Date: April, 2020)
Do you see where it says "ADD"?

1.1+1.6=2.7

Any other questions?


Edit: Where's your smart post? Anything else to say?


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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by WickedSpeed
My ‘16 z06 is out of warranty and I noticed the shudder twice. Bought it 2 weeks ago and can’t get any history information. I was able to look online and it didn’t show the mag ride update so I have the following services scheduled on my dime next week:

Trans flush
Mag ride update
Add Android Auto

My question is that since the tans flush is $600+ from what I remember, should I do this on my own? Hard to do? I can change my own oil. Hard or expensive to source the correct updated fluids?

-Wicked
Check your powertrain warranty; mine is a 2016 as well and was covered under the five year powertrain warranty.
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Power Hawk
It feels like you are driving over rumble strips.
For those who have experienced the problem, is it truly this violent?

The simile of "driving over rumble strips" sounds like hyperbole.

I am not questioning others' experience, but having not experienced the problem I am curious as to whether it truly is this dramatic.
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Elk
For those who have experienced the problem, is it truly this violent?

The simile of "driving over rumble strips" sounds like hyperbole.

I am not questioning others' experience, but having not experienced the problem I am curious as to whether it truly is this dramatic.
Each vehicle is different, my GMC truck? yes it was that bad, I pulled it off the road shut it down and tried it again it was that violent So it’s Not an over statement. I’d imagine some Corvettes are as bad as my truck was. My GS was “definitely” noticeable but fortunately not as bad as my truck though.

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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 09:19 PM
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Thanks! It sounds like it is truly dreadful.
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Elk
For those who have experienced the problem, is it truly this violent?

The simile of "driving over rumble strips" sounds like hyperbole.

I am not questioning others' experience, but having not experienced the problem I am curious as to whether it truly is this dramatic.
That is the exact description I used when explaining the Issue. Some may be less significant.
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How many miles are on the car when everyone is experiencing this "shudder" ?
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How many miles are on the car when everyone is experiencing this "shudder" ?

11K on my Vette, 33K on my truck.
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Old Nov 5, 2020 | 06:26 PM
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2017 28K Miles.Shutter with Range unplugged last drive.Plugged in Range for todays drive.Shutter gone.Manual shifting or auto.No TF.Just Range.
No rush for TF.Maybe in the spring when hopefully the Country returns to Normal
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Old Nov 5, 2020 | 06:35 PM
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What is the built after production date they are referring to?
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