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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 10:01 AM
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I know the 3LT has the Navigation, but is that the standard Nav system that uses the supplied CD? if I buy a 2LT can I use the Google maps on my android phone as we do in the wife's Equinox?
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 10:49 AM
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Yes depending on year of car not all years have android auto/car play. I think after 2015 you have it I have 1LT and use Google maps on screen but mine is a 2019.
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2016 was the model year when Android Auto (and Apple CarPlay) capability was introduced to the C7.
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For sure use Android Auto. Much better than OEM Nav. C7 does not use DVDs for the Nav.
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Is this a C7 question? There is no CD in a C7. Not even a slot to insert one. Nav updates are performed via USB stick.

Regarding 3LT vs 2LT....

Nav is optional on 2LT. A 2LT car with NAV has all the same "bells and whistles" as a 3LT car. The difference would be the upgraded leather. And it's not just better leather, there is more of it everywhere. The dash, door panels, a-pillars, sunvisors, b-pillars, headliner.

Some 3LT cars have had issues with the adhesive holding the leather to the dash letting go and it can be an expensive repair.

On a C7 NAV includes the PDR (Performance Data Recorder) which is a HD camera mounted above the rear view mirror and the ability to record your driving session with a data overlay displaying items such as your speed, revs, brake, steering and throttle positions as well as g-forces.
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Since I was buying used I wanted it loaded. I doubt if anyone can really tell the difference in price between 2 & 3 LT used car.
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Originally Posted by TraceZ
Is this a C7 question? There is no CD in a C7. Not even a slot to insert one. Nav updates are performed via USB stick.

Regarding 3LT vs 2LT....

Nav is optional on 2LT. A 2LT car with NAV has all the same "bells and whistles" as a 3LT car. The difference would be the upgraded leather. And it's not just better leather, there is more of it everywhere. The dash, door panels, a-pillars, sunvisors, b-pillars, headliner.

Some 3LT cars have had issues with the adhesive holding the leather to the dash letting go and it can be an expensive repair.

On a C7 NAV includes the PDR (Performance Data Recorder) which is a HD camera mounted above the rear view mirror and the ability to record your driving session with a data overlay displaying items such as your speed, revs, brake, steering and throttle positions as well as g-forces.
My 2019 3LT does not have leather A pillar, ceiling or sun visors...its soft suade.
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Old Sep 18, 2022 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TraceZ
Is this a C7 question? There is no CD in a C7. Not even a slot to insert one. Nav updates are performed via USB stick.

Regarding 3LT vs 2LT....

Nav is optional on 2LT. A 2LT car with NAV has all the same "bells and whistles" as a 3LT car. The difference would be the upgraded leather. And it's not just better leather, there is more of it everywhere. The dash, door panels, a-pillars, sunvisors, b-pillars, headliner.

Some 3LT cars have had issues with the adhesive holding the leather to the dash letting go and it can be an expensive repair.

On a C7 NAV includes the PDR (Performance Data Recorder) which is a HD camera mounted above the rear view mirror and the ability to record your driving session with a data overlay displaying items such as your speed, revs, brake, steering and throttle positions as well as g-forces.
The wife's MB has a "DVD" player for nav updates. I don't think you can play DVDs on it but that is how you update the Nav system. Very cool system with one major drawback. The updates (map info and NOT functionality) are done every few years and they stopped updating it. IOW, your map is updated to what the last update was. It might be 2025 but if your last update is 2010, the car assumes nothing has changed from that point. This is the same with the C7 or any factory nav system. You are at their mercy for the updates. Don't like it? Too bad. IDK about other states but in WI, we have 2 seasons. Winter and construction. That means, it doesn't know what the detours are or if the road has changed since last year. Google Maps or Waze does. So, what is the point of the navigation system?

Sounds like the question is whether you are a fan of leather in more spots or not. Personally, I am not really a leather fan, I prefer lace and in a car, fabric doesn't matter to me. PDR, well, again, it depends on whether you are into it or not. I think they charge a couple grand more for the 3LT option when it is used so that is something as to whether the buyer wants to pay the difference. Obviously the delamination is a huge problem that some 3LT drivers have resorted to changing to a 2LT dash to "fix it" but that is up to the buyer if he/she is willing to risk it. It might be that while the leather is a problem, how often it strikes is a good question. Wonder if there is a poll going around?
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Originally Posted by Raidercop
My 2019 3LT does not have leather A pillar, ceiling or sun visors...its soft suade.
Alcantara suede is leather
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Originally Posted by dannybrija
Alcantara suede is leather
Alcantara is not leather. Its a synthetic blend of polyester and polyurethane to simulate suede.
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Originally Posted by Maxpowers
Alcantara is not leather. Its a synthetic blend of polyester and polyurethane to simulate suede.
I have been schooled. I just thought my 3LT was extra fancy
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Originally Posted by dannybrija
I have been schooled. I just thought my 3LT was extra fancy
The cost of Alcantara is on par with leather so still fancy
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Originally Posted by Raidercop
My 2019 3LT does not have leather A pillar, ceiling or sun visors...its soft suade.
You are right, I was just thinking of the soft suede as a form of leather.
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Originally Posted by Maxpowers
For sure use Android Auto. Much better than OEM Nav. C7 does not use DVDs for the Nav.
That is not entirely correct.

If you have the HUD, the updated OEM Navigation is much better than WAZE, or Android Auto.

With the HUD, a green arrow will tell you which way you are going to turn next, and a graph in how many feet. It also shows up in the middle gauge, if you do not have a HUD.

The latest OEM Nav update took it to another level.

Not all 2016 Corvette's have Android Auto. Most of them are Android Auto capable, they can tell by the VIN #. I had to have Android Auto downloaded at the Dealership.
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Originally Posted by Vette Jockey
That is not entirely correct.

If you have the HUD, the updated OEM Navigation is much better than WAZE, or Android Auto.

With the HUD, a green arrow will tell you which way you are going to turn next, and a graph in how many feet. It also shows up in the middle gauge, if you do not have a HUD.

The latest OEM Nav update took it to another level.

Not all 2016 Corvette's have Android Auto. Most of them are Android Auto capable, they can tell by the VIN #. I had to have Android Auto downloaded at the Dealership.
What exactly does the latest OEM Nav update do? Does it have, for all practical purposes, close to "real time" changes when there is something changing? I believe it is possible to install it for my 2016 even though it didn't have navigation. How often is the map updated? Google maps is pretty good for street changes.
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Originally Posted by Vette Jockey
Not all 2016 Corvette's have Android Auto. Most of them are Android Auto capable, they can tell by the VIN #. I had to have Android Auto downloaded at the Dealership.
As I remember from back then, at the beginning of the 2016 C7 production run, all of them came with the new required hardware (i.e., Radio Tuner, HMI Module, and USB port in the console) to support both Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, but the initial software only supported Apple CarPlay. When the software was finally updated to support Android Auto, all of the owners at that time were notified to go to their dealer and get the update for free. Many didn't do this because they were Apple CarPlay users and didn't care about Android Auto. This later impacted future early run 2016 C7 owners that were Android users and ended up paying for the software update.

I have a 2014 C7 and paid $895.00 for the 2016 hardware needed to upgrade to Apple CarPlay and it came with the Android Auto capability as well.
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Originally Posted by Vette Jockey
That is not entirely correct.

If you have the HUD, the updated OEM Navigation is much better than WAZE, or Android Auto.

With the HUD, a green arrow will tell you which way you are going to turn next, and a graph in how many feet. It also shows up in the middle gauge, if you do not have a HUD.

The latest OEM Nav update took it to another level.

Not all 2016 Corvette's have Android Auto. Most of them are Android Auto capable, they can tell by the VIN #. I had to have Android Auto downloaded at the Dealership.
There are pluses and minuses to both factory Nav and AA. What I prefer with AA is it updates in real time, I can pre-plan a roadtrip on my couch, It re-routes the trip bases on traffic/accidents and notifies of red light cameras etc when users input.
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Originally Posted by TraceZ
Is this a C7 question? There is no CD in a C7. Not even a slot to insert one. Nav updates are performed via USB stick.

Regarding 3LT vs 2LT....

Nav is optional on 2LT. A 2LT car with NAV has all the same "bells and whistles" as a 3LT car. The difference would be the upgraded leather. And it's not just better leather, there is more of it everywhere. The dash, door panels, a-pillars, sunvisors, b-pillars, headliner.

Some 3LT cars have had issues with the adhesive holding the leather to the dash letting go and it can be an expensive repair.

On a C7 NAV includes the PDR (Performance Data Recorder) which is a HD camera mounted above the rear view mirror and the ability to record your driving session with a data overlay displaying items such as your speed, revs, brake, steering and throttle positions as well as g-forces.
"On a C7 NAV includes the PDR (Performance Data Recorder)" Not neccesarily, it depends on the model year. My 2014 has the 3LT option, including Navigation, but it does not have PDR.
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New 2014 owner here. 2014 does not have Android Auto or ACP. I connect my phone via Bluetooth. When I run Android Auto on the phone the directions will play through the audio system but not show on the head unit screen, only your phone.

One caviot. Your music must come via Bluetooth as well.
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Originally Posted by Red08
"On a C7 NAV includes the PDR (Performance Data Recorder)" Not neccesarily, it depends on the model year. My 2014 has the 3LT option, including Navigation, but it does not have PDR.
Right, there was no PDR in 14. Forgot about that.
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