I just recently installed an A&A Supercharger onto my 2017 Base Stingray, I'm hearing from some people that I should install a "Pedal Commander" for faster acceleration or to reduce the lag. My question is, Has anyone with a Supercharger added a Pedal Commander to their car? Is it that much of a noticeable change in acceleration to justify the purchase? Just adding the Supercharger has awakened a sleeping giant! (375 WHP stock, 586 WHP with the A&A) Thanks for opinions or facts.

 

A throttle controller will not achieve any performance benefits whatsoever, full stop, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

The simple and free solution is to push the accelerator down further if you want more power.

You can buy a pedal commander if you'd like, but all it's doing is pushing the accelerator pedal down a little further for you electronically.

 

I have the soler throttle controller on mine and love it!!! May not be faster but sure feels like it. All that matters to me. Man I want a A&A supercharger so bad. It has to be a blast to drive.

 

I have had both the pedal commander and now the Soler.. I greatly prefer the Soler.

if you are experiencing lag I would reach out to mike @ Soler and look into his tb

 

if you are thinking about installing an A&A Supercharger, stop thinking about it and DO IT! It is next level power in my Stingray! 586 HP to the rear wheels is absolutely Z06 power!

 

That is a great new power level and has to be a blast to drive in a spirited manner. I have not used the Pedal Commander, but I do have the Soler Throttle Controller on my car and it has made a nice difference in how the throttle responds to the right foot.

 

Soler DLX is a great option, but be careful what setting you choose.. some will hurt ya' if your not careful

 

I would not recommend the pedal commander product

 

A&A I am so tempted tell us more

 

If you are looking for more of an increase in HP than just headers and a tune, do your self a favor and install a Supercharger. I went with the A&A Supercharger kit, I read a lot of reviews for it and spoke with the A&A people also and I made my decision. I could not be more happy with it. The install went super smooth and the results are mind blowing! I have a base Stingray that dyno'ed at 377 HP at the rear wheels, after the install and tune, it hit 586 HP at the rear wheels! and thats with the stock exhaust manifolds which are getting replaced as soon as my new TPS longtube headers arrive sometime this week. Im also installing a JMS FuelMax fuel pump voltage booster to get a little more fuel. I fully expect to be around the 600-610 HP at the rear wheels. She will be a Z06 killa!

 

I don't have a pedal commander but have the Soler. Both do the same thing, and you are wrong. Not sure what you consider a "performance benefit" but the lag that is built/programmed into the stock accelerator is just plain horrible. After I installed the Soler throttle controller the car woke up. It responds to pedal inputs as it should. Basically, your throttle inputs are matched 1-1 at the intake. The throttle controllers also let you use different settings so that you don't jump off the line each time. They are well worth every penny.

 

I feel that you are using the term "lag" here incorrectly.

Lag is a delay, and a throttle controller does not change the amount of delay between throttle input at the pedal and throttle change at the throttle body. They simply cannot do this.

All they do is remap your throttle. A given input at the pedal, say 50%, should be a given output, say 35%, at the throttle body. You may want it to be 65% instead. Or 50%. Or 100%. They don't improve performance, they don't "open the throttle faster", they simply tell the ECU that you are pushing the throttle pedal a different amount than you actually are.

 

You are correct and I do understand how it works, but while lag may be a technically inaccurate description it does perfectly describe what it feels like because there is definitely a "lag" between the time that you floor it (for example) and the time that the engine responds. The throttle controllers eliminate the lag sensation, and it's not just a sensation, it is real coming off the line. The difference was insane. I also have a 2005 M7. When I floor that MFer, it goes.

 

You say you understand, but then go on to describe something that a throttle controller very specifically does not do. You are either not flooring it, in which case you can achieve the same sensation by giving it more throttle, or you have fallen victim to marketing and placebo effect, which many of these throttle controller salesmen bank on, including APR.

With and without a throttle controller, stomping on the pedal to the floor is identical. You cannot give it more than 100% throttle. The throttle controller can only send a 100% throttle signal. There isn't an extra message, like "100% throttle, but do it faster please" -- the signal being received by the ECU, which ultimately drives the throttle body, is an amount of throttle. There is no mechanism by which to increase the speed at which the throttle plate physically opens that a throttle controller can adjust.

 

Have you ever driven a corvette before and after a throttle controller was installed?

 

I haven't felt the need to waste my money. I just push the gas pedal harder if I wanna go harder -- which is what a throttle controller is doing for you electronically.

 

Another vote for the Soler TC. Call it whatever you want, the seat of the pants feel is there. When I hammer the go pedal, I want instant feel, not a hesitation. The Soler TC gives me that feel. I don't know how or why, nor do I care. All I want is to feel it go, exactly when I want it to go. I've had (and still have) turbo cars and the turbo lag is exactly how it felt before adding the TC. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

 

Exactly. If and when you do then you can provide your informed opinion. Until then, it's an opinion based on assumption, and your assumption is wrong. The difference is night and day. Call it lag or whatever you want but there is a more than discernible difference between the stock throttle setup and the adjustments that you can make using the throttle controllers. If you're used to stock and not prepared for it it will scare the **** out of you. And, no, going all the way to the floor does not generate the same response as the throttle controllers do.

 

Yeah again, hold up. There continues to be a clear demonstration of a severe lack of understanding here. We need to clear that up before proceeding.

WOT is "wide open throttle"

WOT is completely and entirely unchanged by your throttle controller.

You're saying it is changed by the throttle controller.

It very, very much is not.

There is zero difference between WOT with and without a throttle controller. Soler even explains how their controller works and very explicitly states that it just opens the throttle more for a given pedal input, and that there's no additional power to be realized. Your throttle body is opening 100% -- you cant say "yeah but open it even more fully" when it's already fully open, which is what you're suggesting the throttle controller does.

I know how the system works. I've adjusted throttle mappings before -- and when I can't edit them in the ECU, I just push the pedal an appropriate amount for the power I wish to have delivered.

The hierarchy is throttle pedal -> throttle controller -> ECU -> throttle body. Soler even has a big ol' picture diagram explaining this.

Any lag (meaning delay measured in units of time such as milliseconds between pedal input and power output, if this is not what you mean to imply, stop saying it) in opening the throttle body is introduced by the ECU or the throttle body motor itself. Your little box is just saying "I hit the pedal harder" to the ECU. The exact same effect can be achieved without a throttle controller if you push the pedal down further.

If you still think that WOT is different with a throttle controller, then there isn't much more to discuss here beyond the promise that I'll paypal you $500 to provide empirical evidence of this claim.

 

When you actually drive a car with a throttle controller then come back and let us know. If you say there's no difference (and it is significant) then you're lying. Peace out brah...