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Old Mar 5, 2023 | 03:40 PM
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As I am driving my 2019 A8 GS at a steady speed, I feel a thump and the revs jumps 100 - 200rpm then within a second or so, it drops back to the previous speed. This is cycling is continuous and happens in v8 or v4 mode, on cruise control or not. The only difference is that in v4 mode, the thump seems to be stronger, but does not force the transition to v8 mode. It will go away if I change speed, but then resumes once I am at the new speed. From what I have read, this seems to be different than the shudder others have reported. A club member has a new to him 2016 that is doing the same thing. Any suggestions on what it might be?

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Old Mar 5, 2023 | 04:42 PM
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A8 torque converter shudder. Time for your triple flush. You can read for a while on the sticky post.
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When the rpm increases by that amount that means the Torque Convertor Clutch has disengaged and you see the inherent slippage of the torque converter which is natural on any slushbox automatic with a lock-up torque converter. The noise and feel indicate you may need the triple flush to try and smooth out the operation so it isn't noticeable.

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The 2019 cars came with the newest tranny fluid, so a flush will be expensive (if not under powertrain warranty) and may not fix the problem.
Good luck to you!
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The 2019 cars came with the newest tranny fluid, so a flush will be expensive (if not under powertrain warranty) and may not fix the problem.
Good luck to you!
Not so Sir, at least not all. 19 production started very early. Cars made AFTER 2/1/19 received the correct Mobil1 fluid. Prior production date 19s still had the old fluid, hence OP's production date is key
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It would be worth the time to see when your car was built ad whether or not the triple flush was ever done.
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Not so Sir, at least not all. 19 production started very early. Cars made AFTER 2/1/19 received the correct Mobil1 fluid. Prior production date 19s still had the old fluid, hence OP's production date is key
I agree; I purchased my 2019 in June of 2018
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Originally Posted by chuckrbt
As I am driving my 2019 A8 GS at a steady speed, I feel a thump and the revs jumps 100 - 200rpm then within a second or so, it drops back to the previous speed. This is cycling is continuous and happens in v8 or v4 mode, on cruise control or not. The only difference is that in v4 mode, the thump seems to be stronger, but does not force the transition to v8 mode. It will go away if I change speed, but then resumes once I am at the new speed. From what I have read, this seems to be different than the shudder others have reported. A club member has a new to him 2016 that is doing the same thing. Any suggestions on what it might be?

Thanks in advance for any help.
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Transmissions built after 2/19 had the new fluid. Just because the door sticker build date is after 2/19 that does not always mean the trans was. There is a code label on the trans itself that states its build date. If the date is after 2/19 you have the new fluid.
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Originally Posted by Tinkertech
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Transmissions built after 2/19 had the new fluid. Just because the door sticker build date is after 2/19 that does not always mean the trans was. There is a code label on the trans itself that states its build date. If the date is after 2/19 you have the new fluid.
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My thanks to all for your responses. My car was a 8/18 build, so I will follow up with customer service to see what can be done.
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Originally Posted by chuckrbt
My thanks to all for your responses. My car was a 8/18 build, so I will follow up with customer service to see what can be done.
Perfect. So assuming you have less than 60k miles and your powertrain warranty is still intact, this will be a 0 cost event for you. This is the correct fluid per the GM TSB


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How does it perform in Manual shift mode? If it is Ok then it is most likely a fluid issue.
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I was told by my local Chevy dealership that this item is not covered under your powertrain warranty and that this is only ever covered under your 3year/36k mile warranty....if you have gotten it covered under powertrain please let me know how.
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Originally Posted by '16 Z51 Vette
I was told by my local Chevy dealership that this item is not covered under your powertrain warranty and that this is only ever covered under your 3year/36k mile warranty....if you have gotten it covered under powertrain please let me know how.

That seems odd as it’s the tranny and I’d think that’s a powertrain warranty issue. I have a June 19 GS so I was never able to do the 3 flush so I just replaced my filter after my first year and a half of ownership. But would recommend anyone who has an A8 try for the triple flush and if denied get it done or a filter and flush. Even with the “good fluid” I noticed an improvement in shifts.
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Originally Posted by '16 Z51 Vette
I was told by my local Chevy dealership that this item is not covered under your powertrain warranty and that this is only ever covered under your 3year/36k mile warranty....if you have gotten it covered under powertrain please let me know how.
I wanted the triple flush under my extended 5/60 warranty and was also told it was not covered. The service-writer said it is treated as a maintenance issue. I have heard that many have had the service covered under warranty. Squeaky wheel gets the oil.
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Originally Posted by Ron_Attleboro_MA
I wanted the triple flush under my extended 5/60 warranty and was also told it was not covered. The service-writer said it is treated as a maintenance issue. I have heard that many have had the service covered under warranty. Squeaky wheel gets the oil.
I suppose dealers make up their own rules if they don’t “feel” like doing the work that day. GM stating that “if a customer complains of a shudder, you don’t have to replicate the problem, just do a triple flush with the new fluid” is not maintenance, at least as far as I’m concerned. I had 2 friends, one with a 17 Z, other with a 17 GS, both get this done under the powertrain warranties.
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Sounds like you will need the triple flush, whether it's on your dime or not is the question
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Originally Posted by LT4CMG
I suppose dealers make up their own rules if they don’t “feel” like doing the work that day. GM stating that “if a customer complains of a shudder, you don’t have to replicate the problem, just do a triple flush with the new fluid” is not maintenance, at least as far as I’m concerned. I had 2 friends, one with a 17 Z, other with a 17 GS, both get this done under the powertrain warranties.
Wish I knew where you guys were taking your cars and if they were here in Houston, but all the dealers that I have spoken with have said that it is not covered. I work for a Honda dealer and I know that when clients come in, If they are outside of their 3/36 and have never serviced the trans then it is a lot harder to get it covered. However, If you have serviced it and still have the problem then they will pay. Not sure why Chevy in Houston wont. I called another Chevy dealer in our automotive group in Virginia and they said that they will pay for the triple flush one time if the client complains with no questions asked.
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