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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 09:36 AM
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If in the market for a C7, would you buy a 2014 just for the A6 in order to avoid A8 issues?
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 09:47 AM
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No. Since there is a solution to the A8 shudder I wouldn't pass it up. The later years offered additional upgrades that IMHO make them worth it.
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 10:15 AM
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No. Since there is a solution to the A8 shudder I wouldn't pass it up. The later years offered additional upgrades that IMHO make them worth it.
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 10:23 AM
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Just make sure fluid was changed to the new recommended Mobil 1 HPLV.
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 10:35 AM
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Yes. And I did. Also found one with the 2LT trim option to hopefully avoid potential dash wrinkling problems.
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 10:35 AM
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I will post a bit of a different take.

Before I got the C7 with the A8, I had a C6 with the A6 and that tranny was rock solid. I never heard of many issues with the A6, and never gave the A6 a second thought. I thought, wrongly, that GM's A8 would also be rock solid. Not so much!

I waited for the 2015 model just for the A8. Boy, did I regret that. The A8 I got had problems right out of the box and GM fixed it on the very last day before I could lemon it. It was my first brand new vette, and I was this close to sending it back to GM. I was really bummed out.

And the Stealership had both a manual and an A8 when I was shopping exactly the same except for the tranny. Boy, did I regret not getting the manual!

Yes, if the A8;s torque converter is not too far gone, indeed the new fluid coupled with a Range device will fix it. However, if the torque converter is too far gone, even the new fluid will not help with the shutter. So shop carefully if you go for the A8!

I would not be a bit concerned with a 2014.
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Flame Red
I will post a bit of a different take.

Before I got the C7 with the A8, I had a C6 with the A6 and that tranny was rock solid. I never heard of many issues with the A6, and never gave the A6 a second thought. I thought, wrongly, that GM's A8 would also be rock solid. Not so much!

I waited for the 2015 model just for the A8. Boy, did I regret that. The A8 I got had problems right out of the box and GM fixed it on the very last day before I could lemon it. It was my first brand new vette, and I was this close to sending it back to GM. I was really bummed out.

And the Stealership had both a manual and an A8 when I was shopping exactly the same except for the tranny. Boy, did I regret not getting the manual!

Yes, if the A8;s torque converter is not too far gone, indeed the new fluid coupled with a Range device will fix it. However, if the torque converter is too far gone, even the new fluid will not help with the shutter. So shop carefully if you go for the A8!

I would not be a bit concerned with a 2014.
The problem was they used the wrong fluid. So if it isn't changed and damage is done, well..... If not, change the fluid and life goes on. IDK how the range helps that situation.
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I would purchase the car that checks out best for you. The A6 has not had the problems exhibited by the A8, but with the triple flush the A8 seems to work fine. There are plenty of happy A6 and A8 owners.
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 11:00 PM
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That's exactly what I am about to do. I was shopping for a manual just because of the A8 issues and the much lower gear ratios, then I was open to an Auto 2014 for the A6 because it was tried and true.
The current target in my search is a 2014 auto A6 and if everything else checks out, I am buying it Friday.
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 11:24 PM
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My A6 was Great and so is my A8Also my 3LT was Great and so is my 3LZ interior Pick the car that fits your budget and condition. Good Luck
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 05:42 AM
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The A6 is rock solid, the A8 with the proper flush will be reliable also
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 08:56 AM
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I recently had to have the triple flush on my 2014 A6 due to shudder, so there. There's a thread about the A6 shudder.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...tion-info.html
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If you really want a worry free A8 buy one that was built Feb 2019 or later. That's when GM started the correct fluid at factory level. Also throw in a range device the v4 mode beats up the tq convertor which is trying to compensate for the vibration, also the issue with the valves failing. I have a 2019 GS built April 2019 range device put in on day one. I have about 9000 miles on her with no trans issues what so ever. The fluid is the bigger issue v4 seems to be hit or miss some guys have a ton of mileage and no issues. The fluid on the other hand is an issue for almost all I believe.
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 11:33 AM
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There are no worry-free A8's, despite what GM will tell you. Buy the 2014.
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 12:05 PM
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There are no worry-free A8's, despite what GM will tell you. Buy the 2014.
That's completely inaccurate many have had zero issues with the A8. Not saying it's perfect but there is nothing wrong with an A8 with the right fluid. Now GM screwed the pooch with the fluid not being changed until 2019. That's why there have been so many issues for so long. It also has a smaller tq convertor for space so the convertor has issues with v4 mode. However it has more to do with the fluid. I'm so tired of everyone bashing the A8. Other than the above issues which are fluid and v4 mode tell me how have the A8 failed. I haven't heard anyone complain their trans grenaded. It's always the shutter issue combined with the v4 is tough on the tq convertor. Take away the bad fluid and v4 the trans is fine.
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Originally Posted by Punisher44
I'm so tired of everyone bashing the A8.
It’s just my opinion, but it seems to me that only ones I hear bashing the A8 are the ones who have had problems with it. And based on all the comments, it is a pretty sizable number. My guess is that if you experienced the same issues, you might be a bit disappointed as well. Especially after having shelled out $50 or $60+ k for your dream car. I know that nothing man made is always perfect, but in this case I think the designers have clearly failed. And I also think GM needs to step up to the plate, acknowledge the problems and extend the warranty on the drive train for a much longer period than the current 5yr/60k miles. At a minimum of 10yr/100k miles. And perform the triple flush (if needed) free of charge with no questions asked. The run around SOME of the dealerships are pulling on C7 A8 owners for that service is inexcusable. Again, just my opinions. YMMV
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 02:37 PM
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It’s just my opinion, but it seems to me that only ones I hear bashing the A8 are the ones who have had problems with it. And based on all the comments, it is a pretty sizable number. My guess is that if you experienced the same issues, you might be a bit disappointed as well. Especially after having shelled out $50 or $60+ k for your dream car. I know that nothing man made is always perfect, but in this case I think the designers have clearly failed. And I also think GM needs to step up to the plate, acknowledge the problems and extend the warranty on the drive train for a much longer period than the current 5yr/60k miles. At a minimum of 10yr/100k miles. And perform the triple flush (if needed) free of charge with no questions asked. The run around SOME of the dealerships are pulling on C7 A8 owners for that service is inexcusable. Again, just my opinions. YMMV
I get it and your right if I had trans problems I would be pissed. My point wasn't the issues are minor or not an issue. My point is it's not the actual trans it's the fluid and v4 the trans is just fine if it has the right fluid. Yes GM completely dropped the ball but what's new with that. The fact it took 4 years to figure out the fluid was the issue and finally put the right fluid in from the factory is ridiculous. My point was if you take away two things one put in the right fluid and two don't use v4 which no one wants, the trans is fine. I know if you have trans issues your feeling is the trans is a piece of ****, it really isn't. I also think v4 when it comes to the trans not the valves is less of an issue than the fluid.
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Originally Posted by Punisher44
That's completely inaccurate many have had zero issues with the A8. Not saying it's perfect but there is nothing wrong with an A8 with the right fluid. Now GM screwed the pooch with the fluid not being changed until 2019. That's why there have been so many issues for so long. It also has a smaller tq convertor for space so the convertor has issues with v4 mode. However it has more to do with the fluid. I'm so tired of everyone bashing the A8. Other than the above issues which are fluid and v4 mode tell me how have the A8 failed. I haven't heard anyone complain their trans grenaded. It's always the shutter issue combined with the v4 is tough on the tq convertor. Take away the bad fluid and v4 the trans is fine.
I gotta say that it is really hard to feel the switch off the V8 mode unless you are looking at the gauge. That was how mine was before the flush and after the flush. You have to be looking for it. There is a lag going from V4 to V8 that the range device removed but it was slight. I suspect much is the indignation that the C7 has an economy feature.
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I have a 2015 with the A8. I like most things about it. Although, I have replaced the torque tube and torque converter both out of warranty. I also, have to do a trans relearn ever 5-6 months with HPT to keep the transmission shifting smooth and fast.
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