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Our cars are used that's a fact but after reading the C8 discussion those guys seem to have more problems than we do. With price increases transmission problems and the constraints on the car orders I'm happy I don't have to deal with all of that.
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I am happy with my C7, but remember not every C8 has problems and those that already have their car for the most part are very happy with it.
And there is a vast number of C8 owners that are not members of this forum so hard to say whether they faced repair problems . It was unfortunate that the C8 was launched just as Covid hit, a strike happened, a recession began, etc. - kind of a perfect storm of the worst kind.
Price increases are a way of life in the car business - every generation has faced them.
I'm happy where I'm at with my C7. With the traditional drive train layout that I'm comfortable working on. I would have to depend on others if I had a C8 that needed service.
Our cars are used that's a fact but after reading the C8 discussion those guys seem to have more problems than we do. With price increases transmission problems and the constraints on the car orders I'm happy I don't have to deal with all of that.
Doesn't the C7 have transmission issues with the A8? New transmission and they used the same old fluid as the A6 from what I gathered and the A8 was more sensitive to the fluid being so hygroscopic. I wonder if the C6 people said the same thing when the first couple of years of the C7 came out? My money is the C8 people will say the same thing when the C9 comes out.
I am a firm believer now for a C7 owner with a low milage C7 OR C7Z to get extended warranty
When they sit long problems arise
My 2017 Z06 the clutch pedal falls to floor This happened twice
Slave Cylinder problems Things like this you cant control This was a low milage vehicle
The repair would be removal of cat exhaust drive shaft tube around 5000 dollars not including parts
You cant get to Slave cylinder This does happen to several Corvettes nobody talks about
I like my C7... To ME, a Corvette will always be front engine, rear drive, with a manual box in the middle. Nothing against the C8... it's a fine machine, but not the Corvette I know and lusted after all these years. Now if they ever did a manual in a C8... well, that may be a different story. I may not agree with the name, but would get one on face value for what it is.
Doesn't the C7 have transmission issues with the A8? New transmission and they used the same old fluid as the A6 from what I gathered and the A8 was more sensitive to the fluid being so hygroscopic. I wonder if the C6 people said the same thing when the first couple of years of the C7 came out? My money is the C8 people will say the same thing when the C9 comes out.
One would think that GM would have learned from their previous C7 A8 debacle. They didn't I guess and it makes the C8 tranny problems even stupider.
We have a lot (30+) C8's in the club, some that are daily drivers, some over 25k miles with no issues. Only one with a tranny failure - replaced and car is fine.
One club member just set the C8 record of 182 mph in the 1.5 mile run. Another did 178. Both cars were driven there and then home after 3 days of time runs. The trip was 12 hours.
Each generation had issues, like my friends C7 going into overheat on the Cross Bronx on a 95 degree day, in bumper to bumper traffic.
Another had the C7 shutter.
My feeling is that you hear about issues, but few will just say the car / corvette is running fine. All of mine are , hopefully for a long time.
The plus with a C7 is the trunk space, the C8 is the handling and sound on the Z06. ( almost as good as my 67 with side pipes).
One would think that GM would have learned from their previous C7 A8 debacle. They didn't I guess and it makes the C8 tranny problems even stupider.
Maybe the problem is your thought pattern. You assume they are like you and will learn from a mistake. I think the process is "Which costs me less?". No different from the tailgate issue with the trucks or the Ford TFI. It costs me $100 million to recall. If 100 people have an issue and 10 make it to court and win a total of $10 million, do the recall. If not, I don't care. In this case, they wanted to keep the A6 fluid so as to not have to stock different fluids. Soon as the warranty claims get high enough, switch. Till then, play ball. Ford did the same thing with the 7.3 diesel. Use the old greenish stuff although International wanted a more robust coolant. Cheaper to have the people buy the additive every 15K than for me to stock so there it is.
I like my C7... To ME, a Corvette will always be front engine, rear drive, with a manual box in the middle. Nothing against the C8... it's a fine machine, but not the Corvette I know and lusted after all these years. Now if they ever did a manual in a C8... well, that may be a different story. I may not agree with the name, but would get one on face value for what it is.
Didn't Zora want a rear engine AWD Corvette? IIRC, it was said GM didn't want to do it because the technology hasn't caught up and it was a concept too far ahead of it's time. Only took 60 years to come true.
Maybe the problem is your thought pattern. You assume they are like you and will learn from a mistake. I think the process is "Which costs me less?". No different from the tailgate issue with the trucks or the Ford TFI. It costs me $100 million to recall. If 100 people have an issue and 10 make it to court and win a total of $10 million, do the recall. If not, I don't care. In this case, they wanted to keep the A6 fluid so as to not have to stock different fluids. Soon as the warranty claims get high enough, switch. Till then, play ball. Ford did the same thing with the 7.3 diesel. Use the old greenish stuff although International wanted a more robust coolant. Cheaper to have the people buy the additive every 15K than for me to stock so there it is.
I agree with your point except for one thing. The reality of what you said is that THEY have the problem in their thought pattern. Knowingly producing and selling a potentially defective item and hoping it will turn out cheaper is no different than justifying cheating on your wife and thinking "if she finds out then I will deal with it. If not then it's all good." No one will agree that is a good way of thinking unless that's how you think. And if you do, most people wouldn't admit it publicly, just like GM wouldn't do the same. But yes, I'm an engineer and know that ultimately money is the deciding factor (and your company culture and mission).
I agree with your point except for one thing. The reality of what you said is that THEY have the problem in their thought pattern. Knowingly producing and selling a potentially defective item and hoping it will turn out cheaper is no different than justifying cheating on your wife and thinking "if she finds out then I will deal with it. If not then it's all good." No one will agree that is a good way of thinking unless that's how you think. And if you do, most people wouldn't admit it publicly, just like GM wouldn't do the same. But yes, I'm an engineer and know that ultimately money is the deciding factor (and your company culture and mission).
Don't know what sort of engineer you are but did you deal with Y2K? How many decades have we known it would happen and when did we really start doing something about it? Do you agree that it could have been done decades ago so we wouldn't have to wonder if the lights would be on past Dec 31, 1999? My thought is that "I don't know where I will be in the year 2000 and I don't want to wreck my budget and bonus by fixing it today.". Thoughts?
Don't know what sort of engineer you are but did you deal with Y2K? How many decades have we known it would happen and when did we really start doing something about it? Do you agree that it could have been done decades ago so we wouldn't have to wonder if the lights would be on past Dec 31, 1999? My thought is that "I don't know where I will be in the year 2000 and I don't want to wreck my budget and bonus by fixing it today.". Thoughts?
When I worked in construction (as a framer), I had a foreman who said, "I can't see it from my house." He meant he could do some crappy work and feel fine about it because he wouldn't be looking at it in his house. I didn't agree with him then and took longer to do a good job and I still feel the same. I might not be able to see my current work as an engineer from my house, but I know in my head what I've done. I also know my signature is permanently on my work. I'm one of those that has a conscience. If I can fix it, I will.
When I worked in construction (as a framer), I had a foreman who said, "I can't see it from my house." He meant he could do some crappy work and feel fine about it because he wouldn't be looking at it in his house. I didn't agree with him then and took longer to do a good job and I still feel the same. I might not be able to see my current work as an engineer from my house, but I know in my head what I've done. I also know my signature is permanently on my work. I'm one of those that has a conscience. If I can fix it, I will.
To quote the line in the movie John Wick 4, how you do something is how you do everything. Problem is there is one of you and 100000 of the foreman these days. That said, business is run off numbers not personal work ethic.
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