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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 03:26 AM
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I looked at a Z51 before I bought my '16 base and I am pleased with my choice. I'll never track it and the trans cooler, Summer tires, and other things that I do not need are just more things to go wrong. To me, it's sort of the big watch syndrome with people who want tons of hp and handling upgrades but will never approach their car's ability at even the base level. My base is so much more car than my C2 was that it is scary. As a fun car with more than enough power, I couldn't see the need for the Z51 extras. The ride is very comfortable and corners are nothing to this car. The magnetic ride would offer you more options but is the cost difference worth it?
The base Stingray needs a rear sway bar. That's a certainty. The rear end whips back and forth even coming out of curves at moderate speed. But you're right, none of em (C7s) don't handle fine on the streets until you start doing racing. Which isn't legal anyway.
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 08:45 AM
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I have a base 2016 and a Z06 2019. I bought the Z06 because I go to the track once in a while. No need, in my opinion, for a Z51 over the base if you don't track it.
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 12:51 PM
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I have a 2015 Z51 M7 with MRC. I have also had a 2002 C5 Z51 M6. Both are great cars, with the C7 of course being more modern, if not more complex. If the road is smooth, it's wonderful and worth it. If not, the firmer ride can get tiring, even on the MRC's softest setting. I agree with what most say, which is that if you are not going track the car, the base is likely the better choice if a more comfortable ride is desired.
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 02:26 PM
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I ordered my 2019 Stingray with Z51 because of the added features:

Performance brakes with Black-painted calipers and slotted brake rotors Z51 performance suspension with specific shocks, springs and stabilizer bars Dry sump oil system Performance gear ratios Dual-mode performance exhaust Electronic Limited Slip Differential (eLSD) Rear differential and transmission cooling Aero Package with rear spoiler that reduces lift for high-speed stability.

All good stuff. I did not order the MRC because I prefer a firm sports car ride and didn’t think I’d use it. I don’t find the ride harsh and after seeing the cost of replacing leaking shocks, I’m glad I didn’t order MRC.

i am considering buying non-run flat tires when the Michelin AS/3 are toast due to the excessive road noise. Problem is the run-flats have saved my butt more than once. 🤷‍♂️
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Old Dec 23, 2023 | 07:28 PM
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I think the base should have at least got the brakes. I mean the rears are same on the other models, standardized brakes would have saved money. GM decided on a money grab on the base.
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Old Dec 24, 2023 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikegerm_C5
If the road is smooth, it's wonderful and worth it. If not, the firmer ride can get tiring, even on the MRC's softest setting. I agree with what most say, which is that if you are not going track the car, the base is likely the better choice if a more comfortable ride is desired.
I agree, it all comes down to use case.

My use case:
  • Crappy Minnesota roads (yes our state has a 17.5B surplus this year and the politicians are still raising taxes but they won't fix our roads to be as nice as our western neighbors ... grrrrr)
  • Straight Minnesota roads. Sway bars? I could still add one ... For what purpose? Going around that roundabout faster?
  • Track days? Nah, don't have that kind of $$$ (would rather retire early) nor any near by.
So I opted for the comfy Stingray rather than pay extra for bragging rights on features I'll never use. My SQ5's suspension is a daily reminder of why stiff suspension sucks up here.

Now if I lived in a place with glassy smooth curvy roads, like Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee or spent weekends at Road America, that would be a different situation altogether.
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Old Dec 26, 2023 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by corvettezman
The ride is softer in a base than a Z51. Difference in wheel size puts more rubber between you and the road.
Also the difference in FE1 in Base and FE3 or FE4 in Z51 makes it a softer ride.

I enjoyed the base and how it drove. It was by no way as squiggly as you describe the 300S to be. It was pretty planted to the road.
The Z51 has more of a Corvette feel to it than a Base. I like the Z51 better.
Wheel and/or tire size changes only change the shape of the footprint, not the area. If you want to change the area, do it with tire pressure.
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Old Dec 26, 2023 | 01:47 PM
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My son-in-law drove my '16 base yesterday and after having a C5 previously, he could not believe the power of the C7 base. Unless you need to race it or run time trials, you will never need more than 450 hp. I have followed some using the throttle controller and I simply cannot imagine having a more sensitive throttle without being cautious when the road conditions are slippery. The current throttle is pretty sensitive and much more would make it jumpy IMO.
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Old Dec 26, 2023 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by inspectorudy
My son-in-law drove my '16 base yesterday and after having a C5 previously, he could not believe the power of the C7 base. Unless you need to race it or run time trials, you will never need more than 450 hp. I have followed some using the throttle controller and I simply cannot imagine having a more sensitive throttle without being cautious when the road conditions are slippery. The current throttle is pretty sensitive and much more would make it jumpy IMO.
I agree, but nobody needs 450 hp either. Maybe I am missing something here, but when do you ever "need" 450 hp? I think most of us here "want" X amount of hp. What do you think?
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Old Dec 26, 2023 | 03:38 PM
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I'm only trying to help a person who thinks he needs a Z51 or Z06 for more power and I cannot understand that unless the owner is going to race or track it. I have never floored my car so I can't say what that would be like but I don't think it would be pleasant. To jump up another 200 hp for the street is just insane.
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Old Dec 26, 2023 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by inspectorudy
I'm only trying to help a person who thinks he needs a Z51 or Z06 for more power and I cannot understand that unless the owner is going to race or track it. I have never floored my car so I can't say what that would be like but I don't think it would be pleasant. To jump up another 200 hp for the street is just insane.
I agree. For just street use, my base Z51 has more than enough power to put a huge grin on my face. I’ve only floored it a couple of times on a nice open, dry and smooth stretch of road with no traffic and already at 30-40mph. Whew! It’s like a rocket ship, shooting up thru 100mph in what seems like a heartbeat. Literally takes my breath away. I’ve always let off the gas at that point and coasted back down to a more reasonable speed. Makes me wonder what it could do in the hands of a professional on a closed track. Would love to go along for the ride. A Z06 would probably be insane! 😱

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