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Old Jan 13, 2024 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by joeinbcs
My car drives fine with no shudder, and I bought a range device to keep it in V8 mode.
Anybody else know if the simple drain and fill is now the recommended prophylactic, or if the triple flush still recommended?
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IF the GM answer is that they used the old fluid which worked fine on the A6 and it doesn't work on the A8 because it is hygroscopic and the A8 is more sensitive to the water in the fluid, which do you think will accomplish more? Dumping out as much fluid as possible, short of a tear down and refill or the triple flush or the dump and change filter? How will the range device help? Sure, it doesn't go into V4 mode and you don't see the problem but regardless, it is still sucking moisture in and screwing up things.
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Old Jan 13, 2024 | 10:35 AM
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As far as I know the triple flush is still the go to since just draining the fluid won't get all the old out. I was told by one Chevy dealer that they have a machine now that pumps the old out, and the new in. I don't know anything about that. I would prefer the old way of draining, filling & driving, draining, filling & driving and doing it all one more time.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 69 L46 4 Speed
If your GS was built prior to February 1st of 2019. Go to the dealer and tell them you feel the shudder and reference TSB 18-NA-355. Your word is enough. No diagnosis beyond that is necessary.
This is what I did with my 2017 Stingray. I had no tranny problems but wanted the new fluid.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dlsmith82
Is it possible to have a 2016 A8 with never a shudder?
Yes. Under two scenarios. If you get the triple flush with the proper fluid. And if you are lucky.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by dlsmith82
Is it possible to have a 2016 A8 with never a shudder?
Sure. My 2016 didn't shudder but I did a DIY flush & filter and added the Range device.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 01:32 PM
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I believe the TSB means there is a process to address an issue. It probably is covered under the warranty if you had one. It doesn't mean that it is a recall so, if you do not have a warranty, you pay the cost.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 02:04 PM
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I'm in the process of purchasing a 2019 ZR1, A8 with 5600 miles. It has never had the triple flush done. I don't think it is exhibiting any of the shudder issues but I haven't been able to drive it due to the winter conditions in upstate NY. The in service date is 3/25/2019. The build date is 2/7/2019. I do not know what the transmission build date is. I'm assuming the 5/50 drivetrain warranty will expire in March which is before driving season starts here. I have a couple of questions.

1. Is the ZR1 transmission affected by the shudder ( I know it doesn't have the V4 mode)?
2. Is the flush covered under the 5/50 warranty?
3. If the answers to questions 1 and 2 are yes, is it worth the expense of trailering the car to a dealer to have the flush done?

Thanks for your help. I'm new to the A8. I had a 2014 with the M7 before.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by George_L
I'm in the process of purchasing a 2019 ZR1, A8 with 5600 miles. It has never had the triple flush done. I don't think it is exhibiting any of the shudder issues but I haven't been able to drive it due to the winter conditions in upstate NY. The in service date is 3/25/2019. The build date is 2/7/2019. I do not know what the transmission build date is. I'm assuming the 5/50 drivetrain warranty will expire in March which is before driving season starts here. I have a couple of questions.

1. Is the ZR1 transmission affected by the shudder ( I know it doesn't have the V4 mode)?
2. Is the flush covered under the 5/50 warranty?
3. If the answers to questions 1 and 2 are yes, is it worth the expense of trailering the car to a dealer to have the flush done?

Thanks for your help. I'm new to the A8. I had a 2014 with the M7 before.
My understanding is the ZR1 would also be subjected to the shudder. The bulletin states any C7 Corvette that has the A8 transmission through 2019. Also here is some information for you below:







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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 03:50 PM
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Thank you. I will be able to get under the car before the sale is final.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by George_L
Thank you. I will be able to get under the car before the sale is final.
My dealer gave me a warranty of a month. That should be enough to get it home and get your tech to do a PDI instead of you crawling under and hope to see if there is anything wrong.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 09:45 PM
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The place I'm buying it from is going to put it on a lift for me to inspect before the sale is final.
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Old Jan 14, 2024 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by George_L
The place I'm buying it from is going to put it on a lift for me to inspect before the sale is final.
I don't know. I don't trust you to tell me that what you are selling me is fine. Kinda like asking you for a reference of yourself.
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Old Jan 15, 2024 | 08:06 AM
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I believe that the ZR1 models don't have AFM.
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Old Jan 15, 2024 | 08:12 AM
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Read this thread about issue with ZR1s and the dreaded shudder. In this thread you will read what one reliable poster has stated:

"TCC shudder" and cylinder deac. are not related and, if we are talking about ZR1's specifically, cylinder deac. is irrelevant because the LT5 does not have that system. The TCC shudder problem is caused by an incompatibility between the 8L90/8L45 transmissions and the first two ATF's GM released for those two gearboxes. The third version of the ATF seems to have solved the problem. My understanding is all or most ZR1s were built after GM switched ATF's the final time, so it would be rare to have a ZR1 with TCC shudder.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...der-issue.html
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Old Jan 15, 2024 | 09:00 AM
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That's my question. If the issue is with the fluid, who does everyone bother with the AFM? All it does is show the problem. Even if you eliminate AFM from the get go, the problem is still going to be the fluid which damages the transmission whether you notice it or not.
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Old Jan 15, 2024 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim
I don't know. I don't trust you to tell me that what you are selling me is fine. Kinda like asking you for a reference of yourself.
My mechanic will be going with me.
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Originally Posted by George_L
My mechanic will be going with me.
Totally different. I have known of too many people that buy a car, get a check engine light and found the codes were just cleared.
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Hey guys okay I just got my transmission flush done and I have a 2014 Stingray Z51 and the dealer here in BC Canada told me they don't do triple flush anymore and that they do it once drain out and fill? Anyone else hear of this my car has 67,000KMS or 41,000miles! This was very bazar to me. Anyways I wasn't have any issues with the A6 just wanted to be proactive!
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Old Jan 15, 2024 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tarunpatel
Hey guys okay I just got my transmission flush done and I have a 2014 Stingray Z51 and the dealer here in BC Canada told me they don't do triple flush anymore and that they do it once drain out and fill? Anyone else hear of this my car has 67,000KMS or 41,000miles! This was very bazar to me. Anyways I wasn't have any issues with the A6 just wanted to be proactive!
2014 have the A6 and are not affected it. Drain and fill is all you need.
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