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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 12:48 PM
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There was a post on here last week with very similar symptoms. The dealer said the engine needed to be rebuilt/replaced. He took the car to an independent and they diagnosed a bad starter. They replaced it and he was good to go. Hope yours is something similar and easy (inexpensive).
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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 01:11 PM
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Although post #2 touched on it, I feel you didn't get the obligatory comment "how old is your battery"? If it is the original battery, it will be stamped on the side, near the top, with a date.

Have a volt meter, or use the car's readings. What volts are you getting?
Note that volts doesn't necessarily mean it has the punch to crank the engine.

You should be able to turn the crank manually, with a socket, if going at a slow pace, even without pulling the plugs. You said it is hard or impossible to access the crank bolt. I haven't tried on the C7, so maybe that's tough?
Anybody add to this?

Your event wasn't violent, so let's hope the engine is okay.

Where are you located? Maybe an expert on the forum would offer help.
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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 01:36 PM
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Hopefully it is something like the battery and not an engine failure. Good luck and keep us updated.
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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 03:51 PM
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I'm not thinking engine failure at this point.
No noises, oil usage, smoke, just cruising along at 70 and it dies.
Concerning that it wouldn't even turn over with a jump though. If OP is sure there was adequate voltage and good connection I'd be draining the oil and checking compression.
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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 05:04 PM
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So…. Battery was 3 years old I broke down and picked up a new one praying it would fix the issue. Nope… tried turning the crank manually and couldn’t get it to budge even with the breaker. Had no symptoms prior to this. I’ve reached out to a shop so hopefully will hear something back tomorrow.
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It is a loonnng boring story, but those exact symptoms once happened to me. In my case, the vehicle was outta fuel. So, perhaps the fuel stopped going to the engine... maybe a failed fuel pump or a damaged fuel line .
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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 05:24 PM
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It is a loonnng boring story, but those exact symptoms once happened to me. In my case, the vehicle was outta fuel. So, perhaps the fuel stopped going to the engine... maybe a failed fuel pump or a damaged fuel line .
Could you get the crank to turn. I tried turning manually but could get anything. Initially it tried to turn over a few times before it just seized in one spot
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Old Jan 28, 2024 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Vette Jockey
Was there any cranking, screeching, or clanging before you lost power? Or, was it running, and then it was not? We need more details on the symptoms.

C7's are kind of finicky when the battery is going. 2017 and 70,000 miles, woujd make me look at the battery first.

Tell us everything you heard, saw, and felt when it happened.

That’s the wild part. Just cruising in 6th and then no more power. No clanging no tapping no loss of pressure (at least on the dash) When I got to the shoulder I tried to start it up. It tried to turn over and got a couple of turns before it stopped. Now when I try to crank it’s like the engine is seized. I’ll get it to a shop and get another look.
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My gut says an electrical problem somewhere. Mechanical failures will almost always let you know something is wrong before going south.

Best of lock with the solution.


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Old Jan 29, 2024 | 10:23 AM
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Not being able to turn the engine over is a bad thing. Presumably you removed all accessory belts so the only thing you're trying to turn is the crankshaft?

I know you mentioned taking it to the shop, but if you're like me and can't leave well enough alone, I'd pull the plugs and stick borescopes down into each cylinder. Either you'll find a tell-tale cause of the problem or at least rule that out.
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I know these cars can be an electrical nightmare and most of the time it ends up being a weak battery. However, being that you were driving it, most cars (not sure about the C7) once the engine is started, most of the electrical components are powered by the alternator, so you may want to have your alternator checked out. Good Luck! Hope it all turns out to be something minor!
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I would check your engine ground and make
sure that is still good. On the drivers side of the motor.

long story short, I pulled my engine and installed it. Wouldn’t crank. Spend off time for about 4 weeks troubleshooting. It ended up being my engine ground. I had installed it one hole 3” away in a different hole. Made all the difference in the world. I would make sure it isn’t loose.
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Well verdict is in. I drained the oil which turned out to have some nice red dye in it….. looks like I’m pulling the motor. Never saw any indication while driving of over temp. Love the car so we shall see how this ends up.
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The verdict is what?
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Originally Posted by mr1mike2001
Well verdict is in. I drained the oil which turned out to have some nice red dye in it….. looks like I’m pulling the motor. Never saw any indication while driving of over temp. Love the car so we shall see how this ends up.
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The verdict is what?
I take it to mean he found antifreeze in the oil. If so, then I assume blown head gasket which is pretty unusual on a stock engine. Once torn down, I predict there will be more findings.
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Old Jan 30, 2024 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
I take it to mean he found antifreeze in the oil. If so, then I assume blown head gasket which is pretty unusual on a stock engine. Once torn down, I predict there will be more findings.

yes antifreeze in the oil. No metal shavings in what was drained so a little optimistic in the teardown. 100% stock minus an oil catch.
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It it's *just* a head gasket and you can't turn over the engine, I wonder if it's hydrolocked? Hopefully you didn't bend a connecting rod.

I didn't think the engine needed to come out to pull the heads?
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Originally Posted by AnotherNorskie
It it's *just* a head gasket and you can't turn over the engine, I wonder if it's hydrolocked? Hopefully you didn't bend a connecting rod.

I didn't think the engine needed to come out to pull the heads?
It doesn't need to come out for just a head gasket. The question is, to your point, was it hydrolocked? If it was, you can't just eyeball a rod and call it good. By the time you pull the oil pan to access the lower end to pop the pistons out......may as well just pull the engine. The fact that it wouldn't turn over is enough to make me want to pull it apart and check everything. Might it be ok? Maybe. Probably? Does the OP want to roll the dice and find out it's not ok. The other thing is how much water displaced oil on the rods/mains/cam bearings and what shape are they in now. Could be fine....but maybe not.


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I have zero ability control myself around mods but I would just build it and do a afm delete. Have a Shop check out your rods. You could do a drop in kit in the event you ever wanted to boost. They make them so you “don’t have to balance them but if you got it out, I wouldn’t trust it.

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Hope it all turns out not too expensive for you .
Good luck with getting it fixed !!
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