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To test this, you should use a gentle stream of water, such as a hose without a nozzle or a spray bottle, on a clean, horizontal panel like the hood. A coated surface will display two distinct water behaviors: tight beading and rapid sheeting.
Testing a small, inconspicuous area with a diluted, pH-neutral car wash soap can demonstrate this chemical resilience. The ceramic coating’s hydrophobic properties will remain largely unaffected, continuing to bead water after the soap is rinsed away. A wax or non-ceramic sealant, however, would likely show a noticeable flattening of the water beads or a complete loss of the hydrophobic effect after a single wash with a stronger detergent.
I have the same question about the 2025 BMW M2 I bought my son on Tuesday. Ceramic coating requires different care than non coated cars. It is important to know what is on the car. What is the reasoning behind your response? It is not constructive or nice.
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Originally Posted by Shane1974
I have the same question about the 2025 BMW M2 I bought my son on Tuesday. Ceramic coating requires different care than non coated cars. It is important to know what is on the car. What is the reasoning behind your response? It is not constructive or nice.
I apologize for not being constructive or nice, my bad.
Oh the reasoning, don't have a use for ceramic coatings, too expensive and over hyped. Today's paints and clearcoats are pretty good compared to earlier years. Keep the finish clean regularly, and use a name brand detail spray often. You can even get those sprays with ceramic ingredients now.
I don't see how this helps. If I take the car to the manual wash and use the wax setting, water will bead up and run off. Same with the detail wax sprays.
I had mine ceramic coated by a local guy who happened to be one of the top 20 rated detailed in the US. I was lucky he was local. Did a fill paint correction then used his personal ceramic formulation. He brought a depth and shins to my car I never could have in a million years. It was ready to display on a rotating podium. Genuinely stunned me. Travels the US and a few other countries training high end shops how to do what he does.
By contrast, had my wifes Lexus done by a local shop about 3 years ago. I was NOT impressed. I could have done better. The ceramic coating make the water disperse better than wax, but their paint correction was not thorough or complete. Decent local reputation. My cousins son runs a brick and mortar detail shop in Columbus, OH. He was trained by the guy who did my Vette. But, he will tell you he cannot get the same results my guy can and doesn't know how he does it. Some years ago, a Ferrari club rolled through town and he washed many Ferraris of those attending and they praised him earning repeat busniess. The kid was 24 pulling in 100K/year.
I am a proponent of ceramic coating - if done by a competent person. If your guy learned by watching youtube, save your money and enjoy waxing your car. Ceramic coating isn't hard to apply, its the paint correction that really earns a top shop their money, and money well spent IMHO.
I apologize for not being constructive or nice, my bad.
Oh the reasoning, don't have a use for ceramic coatings, too expensive and over hyped. Today's paints and clearcoats are pretty good compared to earlier years. Keep the finish clean regularly, and use a name brand detail spray often. You can even get those sprays with ceramic ingredients now.
He didn't ask your opinion on the topic unless you had helpful information. You still did not provide any useful information. Nobody cares about your thoughts on the pros or cons of the coating. Nothing you have said has anything to do with the question asked.
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Originally Posted by Shane1974
He didn't ask your opinion on the topic unless you had helpful information. You still did not provide any useful information. Nobody cares about your thoughts on the pros or cons of the coating. Nothing you have said has anything to do with the question asked.
My apologies, it's a forum available to the public, correct? My opinions are just that, opinions, whether helpful or not, just like yours. Whether someone cares about my thoughts are irrelevant, it's up to the OP to make their determination of what direction to go, and sometimes the forum is not the best place to obtain decision making information.
Again, my apologies that you were triggered by my words.
He didn't ask your opinion on the topic unless you had helpful information. You still did not provide any useful information. Nobody cares about your thoughts on the pros or cons of the coating. Nothing you have said has anything to do with the question asked.