Forgive me if this is a stupid question. I have it on my C7, Z51 and I can't seem to find this answer in the manual.

Is the MRS automatically adjusted as the car moves or is it a manual adjustment. I understand about the associated traction control.

Thanks.

 

I think yes and yes. Auto adjusts and that depends on your driving mode selection

 

On the Chevrolet Build Your Corvette website, you can order the Z51 performance option and select the Magnetic Selective Ride Control option together.

1). Does one cancel the effects of the other (not including the looks of the rotors and brakes)?

2). Are there any advantages to having both?

3). Should you just pick the one you'll use most and go with that.

4). Is the ability to order both just a way to up-sell the car?

One other question that's on a different topic.
I keep hearing that for a while the dealers are going to add a premium cost to whatever car you build using the configurator.
Have you guys that have actually ordered the car found that to be true?

 

1. These options augment not cancel each other.

2. These are performance based options for those desiring high performance usage of their vehicle.

3. You cannot order the MSC without the Z51 option but you should want them before ordering them and that would require knowing what they do. No disrespect intended.

4. Hopefully already answered.

 

I agree...I believe you have to have the Z51 to get the Mag ride. The Mag ride not only gets you the adjustable shocks but it also gives you the PTM modes as well as the E-diff on the Z cars so it is more than just the shocks in this case now.

The non Mag cars get non-adjustable Bilstein dampers now on the Z51 cars.

 

Z51 gets you the eLSD. Has nothing to do with the magnetic ride option.

 

If the Z51 option is for performance (in addition to the look), wouldn't that include tuning adjustment for the ride, handling, corning, braking and so forth.
But then you add MSC, does that not change the ride handling and tuning that you just selected when you ordered the z51 package?

If my question is two basic, would you be kind enough to point me to an article that would shed more understanding?

I don't mind the comment about "and that would require knowing what they do", if it also includes a pointer to more information.
I'm sure not that many people were born knowing everything.

 

I am somewhat with the original poster, in that I would like to know how the non mag ride z51 car performs. Is the mag ride faster? Or just more comfortable when not in race mode?
If it's the later, I for one, would have no use for it.

 

Do some searching on this. Mag ride is NOT new technology.

On perfectly flat roads Mag ride probably won't help for performance. Even some race tracks were bumpy enough, even on the very first versions of Mag ride, to where cars were faster with the Mag ride than without it.

Modern mag ride is even more advanced. Bottom line is it keeps the tires on the road better instead of skipping over it. There is a reason why it was standard on the ZR1

 

Um yeah, great speech.
What I'm intersted in is a comparison.
That should be fairly simple, don't you think?
To my knowledge, none exist yet.

 

I thought you wanted just the short quick answers to your questions. If you want the indepth information on these systems, then you should use the "search" button in this forum and enter "Z51 and "MSC" and you will have access to a vast amount of the information available.

 

The non MSC Z51 shocks provide a firm ride that is not adjustable. The MSC option allows for selection to soft, firm, and hard ride. The later being designed to allow the car to be the fastest in can be around a race course but yet very comfortable on the street.

If you need more specifics refer to the above post regarding the "search" option.

 

I know how to use the search function, doesn't change the fact that a A-B track comparison hasn't been done yet...

 

Do the spring rates stay the same on the 2 Z51s? Did they reduce dive geometry? In the videos, it sure seems to roll, dive and squat more than the C6 Z06. I wonder if there is active damping in the works? I don't like designing with all that binding geometry but the ride can become harsh for the street if it is eliminated.

 

Not sure of the point you are trying to make.

1. Are you saying you don't think there is any difference?

or

2. not enough difference to warrant the price?

or

3. GM is derelict in not doing an A/B comparision?

or?

 

I´m saying I would love to see someone take two z51 cars of identical trim, one with, one without mag ride to the track and compare them.

 

What is "The Track"? The point that has been and will keep on being made is that the Mag ride adjusts. So if "The Track" is a bumpy one, like say... Sebring in FL, you will find the Mag ride car faster hands down.

This information has been gone over time and time again. In fact this is probably the reason why you aren't seeing an exact comparison on the C7 because it will have the same conclusion as it has always had (which you should know because you searched for the info?). The conclusion is "It depends" and that conclusion has been constant since Mag ride was introduced way back on the C5. In the vast majority of situations the Mag. Ride car will be faster. The more bumps, hills, etc makes the bias go towards Mag Ride and (if/when they offer it) some tracks are bumpy enough that a Mag ride car with standard suspension will be faster than a Z51 car without Mag ride (Sebring is one of those tracks that is bumpy as hell).

The guys that are not ordering mag ride with Z51 either can't afford it OR plan on an upgrade to coil overs, etc. Something else they can adjust themselves based on the track. There is probably one more niche group that wants Z51 for the tight feel and couldn't care less about lap times.

 

Somehow I sense an unfriendly undertone in your reply.
I am an Engineer, therefor I prefer knowledge to faith.
Tests on previous platforms are somewhat meaningless.
Is there a comparison of mag vs. non mag C7s? Not as far as I am aware.

Your point about the condition of the track is well taken. Still, I don't care which track is chosen, I would like to see a comparison. Not only the numbers, but also the coments of the driver.

I would be surprised if I was the only one interested in this.

 

Gents, it seems yer arguing over semantics. If I am able to discern what the reason for the question is--other than to continue this somewhat pointless argument--I would guess that the REAL question is "Should I pay all that money for the mag ride option?" As an old guy who likes to think of himself as a gear head (albeit without track experience) who has lived cars since I was 14 or so, my answer would be "not". Reason for me is that I bought my '13 GS vert--first Vette, BTW--from dealer stock and it came equipped with MSR. Prolly wouldn't have popped for the extra cash if I had been ordering. I can only tell a slight difference in handling--and NOT SO MUCH in ride quality/stiffness/roll--when I'm pushing the car aggressively on the street. Under normal daily driving, I'm convinced I couldn't tell whether it was set to Tour vs Track unless I peeked.

Bottom line, if you're an aggressive driver who sees himself either having the opportunity to do track days or who has a myriad of sparsely-travelled twisty country/mountain roads that offer the joy of spirited driving without annihilating other drivers/children on bicycles or picking up 12 points on the old DL, then it is prolly worth the cost. Don't forget you'll pay dearly for the option a second time when it comes to replacements. If it was my dime, I'd go for the Z51 and forgo the MSR.

 

I agree. You can only change damping, and not spring with mag ride. Not saying it can't make serious improvments, but I wonder about its performance capabilities