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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 06:36 PM
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I don't have time to manage or maintain it, but I think it would be a good idea to get a Fast list like we have in the other sections to start tracking times, etc...
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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I don't have time to manage or maintain it, but I think it would be a good idea to get a Fast list like we have in the other sections to start tracking times, etc...
I agree and the same as other "fast lists" here on CF.Com it needs to be broken down between showroom stock and different mods. This will help those considering what mods are the best bang (and risk) for the buck.
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I really like the format of the Z06 (and ZR1) fast list. (Well I did copy it for the ZR1 list) The only problem is that it is pretty labor intensive to update. It may be hard to keep up with for the volume the C7 list will become. The links are very nice though.

I was going to suggest that the C7 list include an all stock except drag radial section like the Z06/ZR1 has but until we see some more drag radial results it may not be worth while. The regular C6 list does not have this section.
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I really like the format of the Z06 (and ZR1) fast list. (Well I did copy it for the ZR1 list) The only problem is that it is pretty labor intensive to update. It may be hard to keep up with for the volume the C7 list will become. The links are very nice though.

I was going to suggest that the C7 list include an all stock except drag radial section like the Z06/ZR1 has but until we see some more drag radial results it may not be worth while. The regular C6 list does not have this section.

Actually we did have it in the very beginning. The members at that time decided on the format (that you currently see) that has been utilized since Nine ball reorganized the list.

Establishment of a list starts out as a group effort so that it provids what most of the individuals were looking for in a "list".
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Actually we did have it in the very beginning. The members at that time decided on the format (that you currently see) that has been utilized since Nine ball reorganized the list.

Establishment of a list starts out as a group effort so that it provids what most of the individuals were looking for in a "list".
Oh God no, not that again , to many variables that get overlooked, in favor of the "Hero Runs"
I'll break it down very easy... The C7 base corvette is an easy 11 second car, and the performance model will be, an easy 10 second car.....there all done.
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Oh God no, not that again , to many variables that get overlooked, in favor of the "Hero Runs"
I'll break it down very easy... The C7 base corvette is an easy 11 second car, and the performance model will be, an easy 10 second car.....there all done.


Yup it gets really crazy very quick, the closer you live to sea level the faster you go. I really tried to keep the C6 list a "informational tool" but the members wanted a "fast list".

Eventually, there maybe a list, but it is way too early as there are not enough C7s in the hands of our members. Reading about all the controversy regarding the 11.67 run; any C7 list would need more documentation and very strict moderation.

Right now our supporting vendors are working on their products, the last thing this section needs is a "tuner war" as individuals who purchase a product will not want anyone to "rain on their parade". Then you may have some teething issues and we have the current QC issues only this time with aftermarket products...... everybody looses

We all benefit if we wait. Our vendors will have their products tested and refined as they work with the new tuning tables of the C7. In time there will be many more of our members with C7's to purchase those products.

Lets let our supporting vendors develop their products in peace. A list can be a very good informational tool for all of us provided everybody abides by the rules.

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Originally Posted by Tommy D
Reading about all the controversy regarding the 11.67 run; any C7 list would need more documentation and very strict moderation than what is currently in force with the C6 list.
There is no "controversy" regarding my 11.67 pass, and since you're in New Jersey I invite you to Atco on Monday, November 4th to see for yourself.
The controversy is only there where people want to invent it.

In another thread, I put up $5000 to any takers who wanted to dispute that the car is bone stock.
That offer stands.
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There is no "controversy" regarding my 11.67 pass, and since you're in New Jersey I invite you to Atco on Monday, November 4th to see for yourself.
The controversy is only there where people want to invent it.

In another thread, I put up $5000 to any takers who wanted to dispute that the car is bone stock.
That offer stands.
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The controversy I am referring to is the same as what was experienced on the C6 list when Andrew ran 11.718. That type of argument will cause problems for any list. You posted a link to the arguments in one of your threads

When someone runs a time and provides video & time slips as well as witnesses as you have and members argue over about it .... it is a 'controversy' or at least a disagreement.

I record the times for the C6 section: arguments such as this can cause the list thread to be locked. That is a fact, many times issues regarding what individuals ran almost caused the list to be locked. Check the 1/4 mile thread and you will see deleted posts as well as warnings.

With regard to your time, there is no need to post any offer. The car ran what it ran period. Your experience with individuals who disagree with your time just reinforces my statement "needs strict moderation and documentation.

Oh and btw I am very familiar with Atco been there many times, you don't have to convince me
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Sorry there is no doubt that a STOCK Base C7 can run under a 11.50 ET. Different drivers, locations can affect this... Probably in a good way (10.99)
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Sorry there is no doubt that a STOCK Base C7 can run under a 11.50 ET. Different drivers, locations can affect this... Probably in a good way (10.99)


Yup and with a better DA at Atco I am sure that we will see that time in the very near future, providing the track can hold the power.

Normally the track prep is outstanding. But......There are times whereas the non drag radial side get messed up and things get squirrelly
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Just a list guys... no cash & prizes involved
If someone wants to cheat oh well.
Maybe just a list w/key for mods from fastest to slowest?
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Yup it gets really crazy very quick, the closer you live to sea level the faster you go. I really tried to keep the C6 list a "informational tool" but the members wanted a "fast list".

Eventually, there maybe a list, but it is way too early as there are not enough C7s in the hands of our members. Reading about all the controversy regarding the 11.67 run; any C7 list would need more documentation and very strict moderation.

Right now our supporting vendors are working on their products, the last thing this section needs is a "tuner war" as individuals who purchase a product will not want anyone to "rain on their parade". Then you may have some teething issues and we have the current QC issues only this time with aftermarket products...... everybody looses

We all benefit if we wait. Our vendors will have their products tested and refined as they work with the new tuning tables of the C7. In time there will be many more of our members with C7's to purchase those products.

Lets let our supporting vendors develop their products in peace. A list can be a very good informational tool for all of us provided everybody abides by the rules.
what lead's you to believe that 11.67 run was contrversial?
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Originally Posted by Tommy D


Eventually, there maybe a list, but it is way too early as there are not enough C7s in the hands of our members. Reading about all the controversy regarding the 11.67 run; any C7 list would need more documentation and very strict moderation.

Right now our supporting vendors are working on their products, the last thing this section needs is a "tuner war" as individuals who purchase a product will not want anyone to "rain on their parade". Then you may have some teething issues and we have the current QC issues only this time with aftermarket products...... everybody looses
While I agree that it may benifit to wait a some time to see how things shake out, there are already more C7s on the streets than ZR1s were ever produced. I think there will be plenty of times to populate a list very soon.
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Originally Posted by racerns
While I agree that it may benifit to wait a some time to see how things shake out, there are already more C7s on the streets than ZR1s were ever produced. I think there will be plenty of times to populate a list very soon.
Even though I don't yet have a C7, since I haven't had enough fun to wear out my C6 yet, I'd still like to see a list started with bone stock only. You can always add on the other categories in due time, but if something more formal isn't started fairly soon, someone will start a rogue list or two and it'll be harder to convert to an "official" one.
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It would be cool to make one... I would be number one as of now
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While I agree that it may benifit to wait a some time to see how things shake out, there are already more C7s on the streets than ZR1s were ever produced. I think there will be plenty of times to populate a list very soon.
There you go again with mentioning the ZR1 , nobody cares, this is the C7 section, ZR1 is a great car, I know I bought one at dealer auction , drove it for months and flipped it for a very nice profit.
Its time to put that to rest, the C7 base is running close to the same average et's( who cares about mph) in competive drag racing its all about et's ... Who crosses the line 1st
Yes , I know it bugs you( as I know of your ZR1 worship throughout this whole forum, people could be talking in off topic section about world news , and I'm sure you could find a way to mention the ZR1
Just let it go already.... For the love of God! Look foward not back.
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Originally Posted by NytmereZ
There you go again with mentioning the ZR1 , nobody cares, this is the C7 section, ZR1 is a great car, I know I bought one at dealer auction , drove it for months and flipped it for a very nice profit.
Its time to put that to rest, the C7 base is running close to the same average et's( who cares about mph) in competive drag racing its all about et's ... Who crosses the line 1st
Yes , I know it bugs you( as I know of your ZR1 worship throughout this whole forum, people could be talking in off topic section about world news , and I'm sure you could find a way to mention the ZR1
Just let it go already.... For the love of God! Look foward not back.
You are the one who needs to let it go, my point was that there are less ZR1s on the street than C7s and we have a fast list. Meaning there are enough C7s on the street to support having a fast list. That is it, no comparison of performance.

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Originally Posted by NytmereZ
There you go again with mentioning the ZR1 , nobody cares, this is the C7 section, ZR1 is a great car, I know I bought one at dealer auction , drove it for months and flipped it for a very nice profit.
Its time to put that to rest, the C7 base is running close to the same average et's( who cares about mph) in competive drag racing its all about et's ... Who crosses the line 1st
Yes , I know it bugs you( as I know of your ZR1 worship throughout this whole forum, people could be talking in off topic section about world news , and I'm sure you could find a way to mention the ZR1
Just let it go already.... For the love of God! Look foward not back.
Somebody get this guy a paci(fier)!
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Originally Posted by NytmereZ
There you go again with mentioning the ZR1 , nobody cares, this is the C7 section, ZR1 is a great car, I know I bought one at dealer auction , drove it for months and flipped it for a very nice profit.
Its time to put that to rest, the C7 base is running close to the same average et's( who cares about mph) in competive drag racing its all about et's ... Who crosses the line 1st
Yes , I know it bugs you( as I know of your ZR1 worship throughout this whole forum, people could be talking in off topic section about world news , and I'm sure you could find a way to mention the ZR1
Just let it go already.... For the love of God! Look foward not back.
NytmereZ,

Perhaps you should re-read his post. His only statement was that the quantity of cars produced is comparable. If they've made more C7s, then we should be ready to get a list started. He could have named any other low-production car, but there's a fast list for the ZR1 on this forum, so it was mentioned.

Grats on your super car flip, but that really has nothing to do with his perfectly valid point.
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I wouldn't mind making a run at it in a year or two
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