Scaled My C7 Today
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It is "that bad" when you consider what a C5 Z06 and early C6 Z06 weigh and then look at all the weight saving tech/materials the C7 has. I understand why it got heavier (I've seen the content vs. weight breakdown slide), but it still stinks that it's reached Mustang territory.
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Drifting
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Comparison 2006 Z06 2LT with 220lb driver
885 | 806
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860 | 831
3382lbs w/ driver
3162lbs w/o driver
My 99 C5 was about same weight but that was with weight removal. The Z06 could easily loose a few pounds. Easiest track mod to make is the lightweight driver mod.
885 | 806
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860 | 831
3382lbs w/ driver
3162lbs w/o driver
My 99 C5 was about same weight but that was with weight removal. The Z06 could easily loose a few pounds. Easiest track mod to make is the lightweight driver mod.
It's a shame the C7 is not as light as some of the past Vettes
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Drifting
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It is "that bad" when you consider what a C5 Z06 and early C6 Z06 weigh and then look at all the weight saving tech/materials the C7 has. I understand why it got heavier (I've seen the content vs. weight breakdown slide), but it still stinks that it's reached Mustang territory.
that's one of the things that has always hurt the Mustang is weight. I hate to see the C7 gaining like this...
Scraping the splitter.
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Drifting
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Hopefully there will be some weight savings, maybe ditch the cylinder deactivation, steel torque tube etc for starters. Of course if it is supercharged there is more weight to contend with...
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My apologies for not have a pic of the scale or exact weight but we had a 2010 Auto 3LT GS Vert and I weighed it last year sometime. IIRC it was just a hair under 3300lbs(3285-3295lbs). That car was bonestock down to the GY crap tires. I'm not certain of the fuel level at that time either. This is a car I owned and weighed myself though for general reference.
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Drifting
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My apologies for not have a pic of the scale or exact weight but we had a 2010 Auto 3LT GS Vert and I weighed it last year sometime. IIRC it was just a hair under 3300lbs(3285-3295lbs). That car was bonestock down to the GY crap tires. I'm not certain of the fuel level at that time either. This is a car I owned and weighed myself though for general reference.
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I wish I had weighed my Grand Sport but my Z06 feels so different. Weighed it at the track and with an aftermarket clutch and flywheel, headers and X pipe it was 3075, I was very happy with the number. But we are talking about just a 1LZ car.
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Dry weight on Euro cars.
Just read a quote from one of the car mags that said most high performance euro cars are rated at "dry" weight. No oil, no fuel, no coolant. I just read it a couple of months back but it may be done so the shipping charges are lower. If that is the case, I can understand otherwise FOUL!
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Weight of my girlfriend considered too.
If my C7 is as close to a Mustang my girlfriend is going on a serious diet right now.
Here is the link from the S197forum.com (Mustang) of a guy who weighed and corner balanced his car. I was surprised too since the Ford Mustang website list their weight at 3631. The owner of the car I referred to said he replaced the OEM exhaust with aftermarket, had 8 gallons of gas in the tank, and changed the OEM wheels too to achieve a weight of only 3465. I just found the weight comparison interesting - the cars are "apples and oranges".
This is the guys car:
This is the guys car:
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Just read a quote from one of the car mags that said most high performance euro cars are rated at "dry" weight. No oil, no fuel, no coolant. I just read it a couple of months back but it may be done so the shipping charges are lower. If that is the case, I can understand otherwise FOUL!
Kerb weight: 3384 lb
Dry weight: 3153 lb
Difference is 231 lb. Fuel capacity is 22.7 US gal, which at 6.1 lb/gal makes up only 138 lbs of the difference, leaving 93 lbs for other liquids. A few bottle of Chianti perhaps, some champagne in the trunk? 93 lbs is a lot of fluid weight for transmission, differential, engine oil, coolant, washer fluid. In any case, it is not like you can run the car at its dry weight, except perhaps for 5 seconds until it grenades itself, so who cares. And unless they give you both weights, you would have no idea how much all the other fluids weigh aside from gasoline. I can't see anyone draining every single fluid from every system in the car and weighing it to get the dry weight. It is best to compare all cars full of all their fluids. Then you can just subtract any weight for fuel as you wish.
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If you check the Ferrari site as a prime example of high performance euro cars and look at the brochure for the 458, you will see they list two weights (both with the optional forged rims and racing seat, with no weights given for the base model with standard rims and seats):
Kerb weight: 3384 lb
Dry weight: 3153 lb
Difference is 231 lb. Fuel capacity is 22.7 US gal, which at 6.1 lb/gal makes up only 138 lbs of the difference, leaving 93 lbs for other liquids. A few bottle of Chianti perhaps, some champagne in the trunk? 93 lbs is a lot of fluid weight for transmission, differential, engine oil, coolant, washer fluid. In any case, it is not like you can run the car at its dry weight, except perhaps for 5 seconds until it grenades itself, so who cares. And unless they give you both weights, you would have no idea how much all the other fluids weigh aside from gasoline. I can't see anyone draining every single fluid from every system in the car and weighing it to get the dry weight. It is best to compare all cars full of all their fluids. Then you can just subtract any weight for fuel as you wish.
Kerb weight: 3384 lb
Dry weight: 3153 lb
Difference is 231 lb. Fuel capacity is 22.7 US gal, which at 6.1 lb/gal makes up only 138 lbs of the difference, leaving 93 lbs for other liquids. A few bottle of Chianti perhaps, some champagne in the trunk? 93 lbs is a lot of fluid weight for transmission, differential, engine oil, coolant, washer fluid. In any case, it is not like you can run the car at its dry weight, except perhaps for 5 seconds until it grenades itself, so who cares. And unless they give you both weights, you would have no idea how much all the other fluids weigh aside from gasoline. I can't see anyone draining every single fluid from every system in the car and weighing it to get the dry weight. It is best to compare all cars full of all their fluids. Then you can just subtract any weight for fuel as you wish.
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St. Jude Donor '09
As she got older, the c6z did get heavier. Some of the new cars with all the options were over 3300lbs.
Unless they price it aggressively, If you want a lighter c7z then your gonna have to pay for it yourself. It's not a big deal as most can find close to 100lbs. With seats, a battery, clutch/flywheel, headers, wheels/tires, etc. he'll.... Jim's ultra-Z c6z weighs in around 2800lbs. And it's has a full interior and amenities.
The c7 is a bit porky and I don't see it dropping if any much at all with a c7z model unless they build something like a z28 out of corvette which would be terribly expensive given the pricing trends.
Unless they price it aggressively, If you want a lighter c7z then your gonna have to pay for it yourself. It's not a big deal as most can find close to 100lbs. With seats, a battery, clutch/flywheel, headers, wheels/tires, etc. he'll.... Jim's ultra-Z c6z weighs in around 2800lbs. And it's has a full interior and amenities.
The c7 is a bit porky and I don't see it dropping if any much at all with a c7z model unless they build something like a z28 out of corvette which would be terribly expensive given the pricing trends.
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http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...vette-z06.html
You must of had the no interior version!
