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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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Getting ready to pull the sting on a set of catless headers. I've seen other comparison threads done by vendors. However, I'm curious about comments from those who have had them installed and their satisfaction level.

I had Dynatech headers on my C6 and loved them. Unfortunately I haven't seen them for the C7. I know Pfadt, ARH and Kooks have been advertising their headers.

The reports on the CF have been very helpful regarding ease of installation and power increases.

I'm more interested in how the C7 sounds after the headers have been installed.

I have an auto with NPP exhausts. Any sound comparisons will be appreciated.
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I talked to a local shop the otherday and they said Dynatech is coming out with a header soon and it was in development. It amazes me how many people make a header for this car. The other big question I have in my mind is which size is optimal. I have seen dyno's with 1 3/4 producing better results than 1 7/8.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by schilitj
Getting ready to pull the sting on a set of catless headers. I've seen other comparison threads done by vendors. However, I'm curious about comments from those who have had them installed and their satisfaction level.

I had Dynatech headers on my C6 and loved them. Unfortunately I haven't seen them for the C7. I know Pfadt, ARH and Kooks have been advertising their headers.

The reports on the CF have been very helpful regarding ease of installation and power increases.

I'm more interested in how the C7 sounds after the headers have been installed.

I have an auto with NPP exhausts. Any sound comparisons will be appreciated.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 01:49 PM
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Are you keeping your car N/A? The biggest gains to date on headers on N/A cars are the ARH 1-3/4" set. They bested their own 1-7/8" by quite a margin for somebody just looking to do headers and a tune.
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yes N/A,
my C6 had SLP headers, no cats, x-pipe, b&b bullets and thats it, no cam or anything and it sounded awesome, can't believe i didnt youtube it.

i would like to do something similar to my c7 a6, but feel stupid for paying extra for exhaust as I got the NPP!!
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 02:30 PM
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Catless American Racing Headers,





And with Cats

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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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I had the other guys header but removed them due to fitment issue's. I'm now going with ARH headers. I also have them on my Viper with Corsa exhaust. Can't wait to be back on the road soon.
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Originally Posted by Theta
Are you keeping your car N/A? The biggest gains to date on headers on N/A cars are the ARH 1-3/4" set. They bested their own 1-7/8" by quite a margin for somebody just looking to do headers and a tune.
That is what I thought too but every tuner I have talked to has said go 1 7/8, I have no plans for a blower though. NA all the way for me possibly a cam down the road.
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 03:24 PM
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I switched over to 1-7/8" myself since I'll have a blower on in a few days. The 1-3/4" (long tubes, not mid-lengths) really did show a lot of improvement, though.

Perhaps the tune negates some of the difference.
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As the OP, I intend to keep the C7 N/A. Might go with a mild cam.

I've been down the road with going wild on my C6: 402 stroker, Procharger D1SC, AFR 225 head, Dynatech 1 7/8 headers, Corsa Sports RPS twin disc clutch = 750rwhp/740RWTQ = 10.6@133.6 in the 1/4 mile.

This time just want a nice sounding Vette with a slight rumble

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I would recommend the 1 3/4" ARH longtube system for your goals.

Here are a couple of videos of customer vehicles with the ARH system on the NPP.

WITH CATS:



WITHOUT CATS:


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Originally Posted by David@Vengeance
I would recommend the 1 3/4" ARH longtube system for your goals.
I knew I wasn't crazy...

The 1-7/8" are coming in handy for FI and H/C applications but the 1-3/4" are still the best for a near-stock car.
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Originally Posted by Theta
I knew I wasn't crazy...

The 1-7/8" are coming in handy for FI and H/C applications but the 1-3/4" are still the best for a near-stock car.
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Originally Posted by David@Vengeance
Funny enough but it was Vengance that I asked for a quote from that recommended the 1 7/8....

We all make mistakes.
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Originally Posted by leadville1
Funny enough but it was Vengance that I asked for a quote from that recommended the 1 7/8....

We all make mistakes.

I suggested 1 7/8" because you mentioned you very well might install an after market camshaft in the future
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It would be interesting to see the differences with a Cam and the 1 3/4 vs the 1 7/8. On one post I saw they 1 3/4 and 1 7/8 were the same up top. Seems like you have to decide if you are staying stage I or going stage II if your buying headers.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-t...er-test-2.html
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Originally Posted by leadville1
Funny enough but it was Vengance that I asked for a quote from that recommended the 1 7/8....

We all make mistakes.
No mistakes, just recommending a header to the OP who only mentioned plans of adding a mild camshaft down the road, not a large cam or forced induction.
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Cant go wrong with ARH. I cannot lie, I did have a issue with their 2" primary C5 system but they were very quick to try and make it right. They have great customer service and the products are very well made. Plus...The most important feature....They work! I would burn my money before touching any of the other available systems out there right now, they are just not at the same level of quality in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by 00hotvette
Just don't buy from the company that never gets back too you. Then your thread gets moved then closed by a moderator who has there product. This is from another member.

Tried calling (fill in the company) again today. Order assistance extension goes to a full voice mailbox. Sales extension goes to a full voice mailbox. Tried a random extension and got to a non-full voice mailbox and left a message. Also emailed them yet again.

I've got a bad feeling about this...
Im on very thin ice around here right now due to my opinions so I am going to simply agree with your statement and let people know to research your purchase carefully before spending your money. If you are in doubt about what system to purchase I would recommend the OP contact Doug@ECS or Ron@Vengeance for further help. Neither of them will steer you wrong or push you to a inferior product. Togther they have created the most powerful C7 the world has yet to see, I dont think you can find a better group of guys to take advice from.
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i haven't looked at how the four exhaust tips are connected, but I'm assuming that the are welded to the muffler cans? I noticed in one of the threads someone posted a utube link I think a red one, sounded great and it looked like stock tips. My point is that I like the way the stock quad tips look and if i change to B&B's can I still keep that look?
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