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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by K B Vettin
any pics on the intercooler location?
I'll try to get a decent shot of that tomorrow. It actually wasn't in the car when I took these.
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy@AandASuperchargers
I'll try to get a decent shot of that tomorrow. It actually wasn't in the car when I took these.
I'm getting ready to order! First I have to; Just have to sell a an A&A kit from my Z06. Then sell the car! She didn't say how much I had to get!

I sent you a PM what if I swiss cheese
that bracket a little with a drill. if done right it should stay strong and be lighter.
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Great looking kit and knocking on OEM quality’s door. As far as price, sure people will understand you get what you pay for and ignore some recent hype.

CARB approval, hopefully utilizing GM injectors as is, will simplify that a little (one less component to nail from calibration matrix standpoint).


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Andy,

When will you have package pricing in place?

Are you accepting shipped cars yet for installation?

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Originally Posted by Andy@AandASuperchargers
I saw that when I was taking the pictures. I was wondering how long it would be before somebody called me on it.
Very astute!
I've installed quite a few systems. It's all in the details haha.
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Doesn't get much nicer looking that that! Very nice my friend.

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Nicely put together looking forward to results and pricing
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Old Feb 23, 2014 | 11:50 PM
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Sorry. Left my camera somewhere I can't get at it. All I have is a couple of cellphone pictures of the intercooler.
You can see that we've continued with the "Ram Air" intercooler design.
The scoop is open to the front and completely sealed against the intercooler at the rear and sides. With the horizontal orientation of the core you must actually FORCE the air to change direction. Air will always take the path of least resistance and must be forced through the intercooler core.
The back of the scoop is at a 45* angle to the actual core. What you're seeing is the reflection of the cooling fins in the back of the scoop. The front lip of the scoop is folded over 180* just to give it a nice rounded edge. It also strengthens it.
The first picture is deceiving in that it appears that the core and tank are visible from the front of the car. They really aren't. I was shooting down at an angle. The surface of the core is actually about 1/2" below the bottom of the grill opening. Only the scoop extends up into the grill area.
The second picture is what you actually see from the front of the car.
And, yes, I know my car is dirty!
The grill opening is enclosed with a large cylindrical shroud that seals up against the radiator. Air inside this shroud is definitely going to be under increased pressure at speed. Grabbing a portion of this air and actually forcing down through the intercooler core is, in my mind, the most efficient use of the intercooler core.
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very nice andy... cant wait to get my hands on a kit.
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We're about to be placing our first order very soon
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Today is a good day to order mine!
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Andy if someone wanted no restrictor plate on your kit , could it be done ?
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Does the factory hood vent shroud go back in place?
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by vegasredz062
Andy if someone wanted no restrictor plate on your kit , could it be done ?
A&A doesn't use "restrictor plates"!
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It all looks good, but what I do not understand is why you have an intercooler after the belt driven turbo which runs so much cooler than an exhaust driven turbo. Can you tell me what the temperature of the compressed air is at the output of the turbo, and then how much the intercooler reduces this temperature before being fed into the engine? Again - looks very nice but are there too many parts involved?
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Originally Posted by vegasredz062
Andy if someone wanted no restrictor plate on your kit , could it be done ?
I don't believe in restrictor plates. All the plate does is starve the blower for air at the top end. They run a smaller pulley with the plate. This is NOT good for the blower. Vortech (or any manufacturer) will tell you that restrictor plates can damage the blower. Should you have a warranty issue and they KNOW you used a plate, your warranty would be void.

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Does the factory hood vent shroud go back in place?
Yes. It fits just fine. It's just not shown in the pictures.

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It all looks good, but what I do not understand is why you have an intercooler after the belt driven turbo which runs so much cooler than an exhaust driven turbo. Can you tell me what the temperature of the compressed air is at the output of the turbo, and then how much the intercooler reduces this temperature before being fed into the engine? Again - looks very nice but are there too many parts involved?
I don't have exact figures, and they would vary tremendously by boost, car speed, ambient temps etc.
Dropping temps by well over 100* is normal.
Even on the dyno, where fans can't even come close to forcing the volume of air through the cooler as would a vehicle traveling even, 80MPH, the temperature drops are huge.
With our ram air design, all the air that hits the front of that scoop is forced through the core. Nobody else's design comes close to being that efficient.
The short answer? Yes, the intercooler is necessary for an efficient system.
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Originally Posted by Andy@AandASuperchargers
I don't believe in restrictor plates. All the plate does is starve the blower for air at the top end. They run a smaller pulley with the plate. This is NOT good for the blower. Vortech (or any manufacturer) will tell you that restrictor plates can damage the blower. Should you have a warranty issue and they KNOW you used a plate, your warranty would be void.

Andy I certainly do not wish to bicker back and forth, but this is 100% false information. Frankly it's a bit of a "low blow" and I was hoping we could be done with that stuff, but I'll leave it up to you which direction these things take. You have my word that I will not poke at you unless instigated in a matter such as this.

Paxton Vortech has used restrictor plates in their own kits for a long time and actually suggested we used them when we switched back to Paxton. They are absolutely aware that we use them, and no one has ever, or will ever be denied a warranty claim because of one.

It's a simple, yet effective way of creating more low end boost, with no negative side effects As we have been proving for almost ten years now.
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Andy I certainly do not wish to bicker back and forth, but this is 100% false information. Frankly it's a bit of a "low blow" and I was hoping we could be done with that stuff, but I'll leave it up to you which direction these things take. You have my word that I will not poke at you unless instigated in a matter such as this.

Paxton Vortech has used restrictor plates in their own kits for a long time and actually suggested we used them when we switched back to Paxton. They are absolutely aware that we use them, and no one has ever, or will ever be denied a warranty claim because of one.

It's a simple, yet effective way of creating more low end boost, with no negative side effects As we have been proving for almost ten years now.
Hmm. I do like the idea of boost down low.. So Paxton is fine with , but vortech is not?
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
Andy I certainly do not wish to bicker back and forth, but this is 100% false information. Frankly it's a bit of a "low blow" and I was hoping we could be done with that stuff, but I'll leave it up to you which direction these things take. You have my word that I will not poke at you unless instigated in a matter such as this.

Paxton Vortech has used restrictor plates in their own kits for a long time and actually suggested we used them when we switched back to Paxton. They are absolutely aware that we use them, and no one has ever, or will ever be denied a warranty claim because of one.

It's a simple, yet effective way of creating more low end boost, with no negative side effects As we have been proving for almost ten years now.
The head of engineering is who I got the info from. I'm not making anything up.
I was asked and I'm telling him why I don't use them. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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