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non-adjustable valving but you can spec them out to your needs.
mine is not a track car, I want weekend street valving with two track days per year on R888s with Z51 sway bars. They can handle the rest. I just want to set ride height/corner weights.
I had pfadts on my C5Z and once I set them I never touched them again.
they may have an adjustsable application but i don't need it.
non-adjustable valving but you can spec them out to your needs.
mine is not a track car, I want weekend street valving with two track days per year on R888s with Z51 sway bars. They can handle the rest. I just want to set ride height/corner weights.
I had pfadts on my C5Z and once I set them I never touched them again.
they may have an adjustsable application but i don't need it.
My idea is to use a 100 pound spring on the front and a 150 pound spring on the rear. Those would be in addition to the stock springs. Of course valve the shocks for the total spring rate
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My idea is to use a 100 pound spring on the front and a 150 pound spring on the rear. Those would be in addition to the stock springs. Of course valve the shocks for the total spring rate
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Of course, but what setup do they promote ? Some of these club racers are putting same size wheels and tires front and rear and then nearly the same spring rates front and rear. Basically, we know from the development of the Z06 that, that is not necessary unless there is a driver style peculiarity. Also, the T1 suspension kit has similar spring rates to the Z06.
why do you find benefit in keeping the leaves of spring?
OEM springs and coilovers ? The advantage is less of a pinpoint load on the chassis and longevity of the chassis. In fact, aluminum has a problem as a limited number of fatigue cycles. The disadvantage is that the unsprung weight increases slightly instead of decreasing. Another disadvantage is that when raising or lowering then there are two spring systems to adjust. However, most Corvette lowering is about 3/4" and so just plan on that as a setup starting point. But the coilovers allow easier adjustment of total spring rate. The OEM spring rate is never changed only the coilover spring rate is changed
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OEM springs and coilovers ? The advantage is less of a pinpoint load on the chassis and longevity of the chassis. In fact, aluminum has a problem as a limited number of fatigue cycles. The disadvantage is that the unsprung weight increases slightly instead of decreasing. Another disadvantage is that when raising or lowering then there are two spring systems to adjust. However, most Corvette lowering is about 3/4" and so just plan on that as a setup starting point. But the coilovers allow easier adjustment of total spring rate. The OEM spring rate is never changed only the coilover spring rate is changed
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ok then if the major benefit is longevity of the system, would you expect a coilover only system to fail prematurely?
ok then if the major benefit is longevity of the system, would you expect a coilover only system to fail prematurely?
Both OEM springs and coilover springs:
I'm just concerned with the stress points on the chassis and balancing the load into the chassis. If the load can go into the chassis at two points (at each wheel corner) that's better than one point
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I'm just concerned with the stress points on the chassis and balancing the load into the chassis. If the load can go into the chassis at two points (at each wheel corner) that's better than one point
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have you seen failures or anything that might give you this idea?
have you seen failures or anything that might give you this idea?
just curious, not disagreeing.
Well, the OEM spring takes some of the load inward of the shock mount. That's a big difference from taking all the loads at the shock mount.
But the aluminum chassis:
Aluminum has a limited number of stress cycles before hairline cracking begins. And hairline cracking of aluminum structures is very common in aircraft. A aluminum vehicle chassis mitigates the concern about stress cycles by using very large and tall cross sections and making the chassis very stiff. The end result is only about 5% less weight than a steel chassis as the steel chassis would be expected to use a slightly smaller and shorter cross sections. (A chassis frame-channel cross-section is rectangular turned tallwise.)
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I'm just concerned with the stress points on the chassis and balancing the load into the chassis. If the load can go into the chassis at two points (at each wheel corner) that's better than one point
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There is no reason to be concerned. We've been winning races and championships for years on coilovers without any chassis failures that you are describing.
I also just finished quoting a upgraded shock package for another OEM Chevy vehicle and the testing required to ensure safety is extensive and at very high loads for hundreds of thousands of cycles. I would imagine that same testing applies to every car they make.
There is no reason to be concerned. We've been winning races and championships for years on coilovers without any chassis failures that you are describing.
The other poster thought I was concerned with the strength of the coilover. But the coilover is a replaceable item. The concern was long life of the chassis.
But I didn't describe any failures. I described hairline cracking of aluminum structures that have a large number of stress cycles
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