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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 09:54 PM
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Just like the title states. In order to get the same power performance (not talking about braking, suspension, etc) as a Z06, I think all that would be required is a supercharger from one of our supportng vendors, a tune and ....well that's about it isn't? Of course headers and a few other performance mods would be a great compliment to the supercharger, I don't think it's necessary to get Z06 performance. True???

Sure love the Z06's....I mean dang they did a job on those. Buy by the time you add all the options you want, it's MSRP is right at $95k-100k. Sure you can get one for $80k but I do like options. So I'll stick with my $67k Stingray and for about $8k I believe I can get the same power performance.

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Vengance Racing just dyno's their Z at 617 rwtq.. I would think S/C, meth, LT's will come up short. I am going to leave mine stock, save every penny I can find, and buy the Big Bad Z in a couple of years when the prices ease...
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Yeah, I have a message into ProCharger to help me get started. Ready to start the process and get as close as I can.
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Originally Posted by dovervold
Vengance Racing just dyno's their Z at 617 rwtq.. I would think S/C, meth, LT's will come up short. I am going to leave mine stock, save every penny I can find, and buy the Big Bad Z in a couple of years when the prices ease...
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...injection.html
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dovervold
Vengance Racing just dyno's their Z at 617 rwtq.. I would think S/C, meth, LT's will come up short. I am going to leave mine stock, save every penny I can find, and buy the Big Bad Z in a couple of years when the prices ease...
Come up short?

Lol, we got SC, LT's, Meth cars past 700rwhp.
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I wouldn't be too worried about making more power than a stock Z06....that isn't too hard. I'd be much more concerned with the intake/headers/pulley/tune (maybe cammed) Z06 that is going to lay it down all over your face.
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Old Dec 6, 2014 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dovervold
I am going to leave mine stock, save every penny I can find, and buy the Big Bad Z in a couple of years when the prices ease...
That's my plan as well. I was planning on putting on a supercharger and a few other items, but I think I'm going to leave my 2014 Z51 mostly stock, like it is now and enjoy it for what it is. When the 2017's hit, if I still have the urge I'll look at a new Z06.
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$12k parts and install at Jannetty Racing got me a road course safe tune (tested numerous times) with 657wHP on Stingray..
Easily tuned more aggressive for more power.. or even a pulley swap and safe tune for 700wHP on conservative dyno
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Originally Posted by Greg Quillen
$12k parts and install at Jannetty Racing got me a road course safe tune (tested numerous times) with 657wHP on Stingray..
Easily tuned more aggressive for more power.. or even a pulley swap and safe tune for 700wHP on conservative dyno

Can you elaborate on mods...very cool.
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
I wouldn't be too worried about making more power than a stock Z06....that isn't too hard. I'd be much more concerned with the intake/headers/pulley/tune (maybe cammed) Z06 that is going to lay it down all over your face.
No reason that an LT1 with the same setup as an LT4 won't make the same power.
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No reason that an LT1 with the same setup as an LT4 won't make the same power.
You'd have to build the bottom end to make the same power. You will spend the difference in the cars (1LT to 1LZ) just getting the engine up to spec (to a modified Z06). Not to mention a drivetrain that can handle it properly.

If you really want to have what the Z06 offers, the value is there to just buy one....whether that means taking a bath on your regular C7....well that is our fault for buying one in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
You'd have to build the bottom end to make the same power. You will spend the difference in the cars (1LT to 1LZ) just getting the engine up to spec (to a modified Z06). Not to mention a drivetrain that can handle it properly.

If you really want to have what the Z06 offers, the value is there to just buy one....whether that means taking a bath on your regular C7....well that is our fault for buying one in the first place.
I wonder what the limit will be on the smallish LT4 blower pullied down. Someone who I respect estimated ~750rwhp.
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Originally Posted by robertf97
I wonder what the limit will be on the smallish LT4 blower pullied down. Someone who I respect estimated ~750rwhp.
I wonder what the limit is on the motor given what the LT1 is holding so far.....easy to swap in a bigger blower.
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Originally Posted by 2014C7
Can you elaborate on mods...very cool.
ECS Supercharger, ARH Headers 2" runners, ECS methanol injection, 2 tunes low and high boost
567wHP and 657wHP
Road Course car safe tune
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As others have mentioned.. Making "Z06 Power" is simple...

You are talking less than $8,000 in parts to make 700+ EASILY.. Even if you are paying someone to do the install and tune you should be under $10,000 in most cases.

ECS Blower Kit
Alky Control Meth
ARH Headers

That simple combo will touch 750whp on a 7 speed car and has been done over and over again at this point.
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I am really curious to see how this car does on a track for a 30 minute plus session. The ZR1's were notorious for losing power after a few laps with a supercharger. These superchargers are not that efficient and heat is the byproduct of inefficiency. My guess is that they are probably excellent cars though and have been factory engineered to handle an extended session.

I am questioning the money I would put into my C7 to make it track worthy would a base Z06 already be there? I have to install cam's and big brakes which will be 8 to 9k vs. just buying a 78k Z06.
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$12k parts and install at Jannetty Racing got me a road course safe tune (tested numerous times) with 657wHP on Stingray..
Unless you put in a larger radiator and larger or additional engine oil cooler your car will overheat when pushed on a road course after a few laps. When using that kind of hp the stock cooling sucks. I doubt you actually use the car on road courses or you would know that. 4 hard laps and the oil would be over 300 degrees with engine coolant making ecu shut down the engine. Now if you are a parade lapper you might be fine.
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My guess is that they are probably excellent cars though and have been factory engineered to handle an extended session.
I hope that is true but I highly doubt it. Aftermarket money will have to be spent to keep them cool. Few realize the amout of cooling necessary when you start flogging 650 hp lap after lap.
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
I wonder what the limit is on the motor given what the LT1 is holding so far.....easy to swap in a bigger blower.
They have answered my question on the Z06 forum, looks like 660 rwhp. Lot of chatter about heat soak as well.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-660-rwtq.html

You know it will take a lot more than the LT1 but I would rather have my aftermarket short block than the Z06 factory parts and I wouldn't want to have to buy another blower.

I do envy the A8 trans and wider rear tires though.
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Originally Posted by Greg Quillen
$12k parts and install at Jannetty Racing got me a road course safe tune (tested numerous times) with 657wHP on Stingray..
Easily tuned more aggressive for more power.. or even a pulley swap and safe tune for 700wHP on conservative dyno
You should do some research on him over on LS1tech
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