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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 12:58 AM
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You pay for the name and warranty. If you want performance you choose someone else.
If you are referring to lingenfelter there prices are not that bad. Hey are you from Michigan or just a tigers fan? I believe the 624 horse 600 torque package is around 11k. You have to take into account resale. A lingenfelter corvette will bring more then then some random supercharged similar vette. Not to mention the warranty. You figure a good shop like some of the ones mentioned here are gonna run you around 8 or 9k with installation. So another 2k for lingenfelter name and warranty is not bad. Also the resale value will be higher.

I'm from Michigan and a huge tigers fan!! Cant wait for the season to start!

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If you are referring to lingenfelter there prices are not that bad. Hey are you from Michigan or just a tigers fan? I believe the 624 horse 600 torque package is around 11k. You have to take into account resale. A lingenfelter corvette will bring more then then some random supercharged similar vette. Not to mention the warranty. You figure a good shop like some of the ones mentioned here are gonna run you around 8 or 9k with installation. So another 2k for lingenfelter name and warranty is not bad. Also the resale value will be higher.

I'm from Michigan and a huge tigers fan!! Cant wait for the season to start!
EXACTLY, Ligenfelter and Callaway are the only 2 shops where the modifications actually increase the value of the car. They are also one of the few who offer a warranty on the components they modify to replace the warranty you lose from GM. Sure, others claim to deliver more HP per $$$ but when you weigh the entire package these 2 need to be considered.

OTOH, simply trading up to a Z06 gets you far more than any of these shops provide from a complete package aspect (engine, trans, suspension, brakes, wheels, tires and bodywork) and you get a full factory warranty and a stellar resale history.
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624/600 for 11k.. A ecs/a&A/procharger kit for $6000 installed will make the same power.

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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 10:57 AM
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This thread is filling up with sheep....

624/600 for 11k.. A ecs/a&A/procharger kit for $6000 installed will make the same power.
Where can you get that kit brand new installed and tuned for that price?

The truth of the matter is that a good shop that can build it needs 2 things... a fabricator and calibrator. That is where vengeance shines.... They have the best i've seen on both departments in a while...

If you have a fabricator and a calibrator, there is nothing that cannot be accomplished.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 11:42 AM
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If you have a fabricator and a calibrator, there is nothing that cannot be accomplished.
You don't even need a calibrator to accomplish anything. Just look at all the fabricators out there accomplishing the impossible!
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by anders1118
If you are referring to lingenfelter there prices are not that bad. Hey are you from Michigan or just a tigers fan? I believe the 624 horse 600 torque package is around 11k. You have to take into account resale. A lingenfelter corvette will bring more then then some random supercharged similar vette. Not to mention the warranty. You figure a good shop like some of the ones mentioned here are gonna run you around 8 or 9k with installation. So another 2k for lingenfelter name and warranty is not bad. Also the resale value will be higher.

I'm from Michigan and a huge tigers fan!! Cant wait for the season to start!
11K for flywheel horsepower is way too much. You are better off going to Livernois right there in Dearborn or having the car transported to a shop that will actually give you what you are paying for.

Yes I'm from Michigan. Grew up in Pontiac and come home a few times a year. My grandfather owns a shop on Woodward so I make sure to come back for the Dream Cruise.

Originally Posted by breecher_7
This thread is filling up with sheep....

624/600 for 11k.. A ecs/a&A/procharger kit for $6000 installed will make the same power.


Originally Posted by The Highlander
Where can you get that kit brand new installed and tuned for that price?

The truth of the matter is that a good shop that can build it needs 2 things... a fabricator and calibrator. That is where vengeance shines.... They have the best i've seen on both departments in a while...

If you have a fabricator and a calibrator, there is nothing that cannot be accomplished.
No fabrication needed. Call a reputable shop and order a kit or bring your car there and be done with it.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 12:40 PM
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FSP was doing installed/tuned c7 kits for $6k and I would trust Matt's tuning any day over LPE/Callaway.
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FSP was doing installed/tuned c7 kits for $6k and I would trust Matt's tuning any day over LPE/Callaway.
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Originally Posted by breecher_7
I never said i would not trust any of the reputable tuners on here. I have not had experience with any of them but i can definitely tell they do a great job with all the happy customers on here. My question is what happens with something on your car breaks??? Then what?
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Originally Posted by Unreal
I would trust Matt's tuning any day over LPE/Callaway.
Just curious what thats based on?

There is only one performance shop that I know of that has engineered, patented, and manufactured their own supercharger. There is only one which GM has trusted enough to give a factory RPO on two different generations of Corvette. Rick Hendrick trusted them to build his 25th Anniversary Camaro. They set the world record for a street legal production car at 254.76mph is 1988. Their C6 demo car has 200k miles and still runs 10.80s 100% emissions legal.

The list could go on....Im curious if anyone's resume stacks up.

Only one has done all of that and more. Callaway

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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 03:40 PM
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Paying a shop $11k+ for a warrantied setup is just prepaying for the next motor. If you spend $6k at a great shop/tuner like FSP/vengance/LMR/etc you can have the $5k in the bank, and if nothing happens, great you get to keep/invest/use that money. If something does happen, you are no worse off, and in fact have a chance to put a forged/better motor in.
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Seriously though, this can be done for under 11K.....

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...injection.html

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Sometimes a badge is worth more than the object to which it is attached.

No real point in fighting about it.
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Old Mar 24, 2015 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SurfnSun

There is only one performance shop that I know of that has engineered, patented, and manufactured their own supercharger. There is only one which GM has trusted enough to give a factory RPO on two different generations of Corvette. Rick Hendrick trusted them to build his 25th Anniversary Camaro. They set the world record for a street legal production car at 254.76mph is 1988. Their C6 demo car has 200k miles and still runs 10.80s 100% emissions legal.

The list could go on....Im curious if anyone's resume stacks up.

Only one has done all of that and more. Callaway
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Rick Hendrick trusted them to build his 25th Anniversary Camaro.


We built Rick Hendrick an 8 Second C6 Z06
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 04:54 PM
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We built Rick Hendrick an 8 Second C6 Z06
What matters when you are trying to find the best of the best. Because there is an answer. There is one that is a notch above the rest. And it is the one in the same that GM recognizes to the leader. Late Model Racecraft. They stay in constant communication with the head of GM Performance Parts and get to have the brain to pick of the head aero engineer from GM. I think if Jamie Meyer were to mod his Vette it would be at LMR. Now, of ALL the shops listed to this point. What competes with those acalades??
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Originally Posted by ASASSN
What matters when you are trying to find the best of the best. Because there is an answer. There is one that is a notch above the rest. And it is the one in the same that GM recognizes to the leader. Late Model Racecraft. They stay in constant communication with the head of GM Performance Parts and get to have the brain to pick of the head aero engineer from GM. I think if Jamie Meyer were to mod his Vette it would be at LMR. Now, of ALL the shops listed to this point. What competes with those acalades??
Well, even though your entire post is opinion, LMR is a good shop.

Who competes on the same level? Katech (might be a higher level), Vengeance, Livernoise, Lingenfelter, LG Motorsports, ECS, etc and that is just for Vette stuff.

If you want you can expand to places like AMS, MTI, Cobb, Switzer, JoTech, Titan, etc etc

There are a lot of very good and reputable shops out there.
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
Well, even though your entire post is opinion, LMR is a good shop.

Who competes on the same level? Katech (might be a higher level), Vengeance, Livernoise, Lingenfelter, LG Motorsports, ECS, etc and that is just for Vette stuff.

If you want you can expand to places like AMS, MTI, Cobb, Switzer, JoTech, Titan, etc etc

There are a lot of very good and reputable shops out there.


It's scary how much I'm agreeing with Higgs these days.

LMR is a great shop (mentioned in my own opinion), but it's sort of improper to state an opinion as fact, as I'm sure they would agree with.

There are several accolades that each shop or company listed here possesses. It comes down to choosing the best fit for each individual.
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
Well, even though your entire post is opinion, LMR is a good shop.

Who competes on the same level? Katech (might be a higher level), Vengeance, Livernoise, Lingenfelter, LG Motorsports, ECS, etc and that is just for Vette stuff.

If you want you can expand to places like AMS, MTI, Cobb, Switzer, JoTech, Titan, etc etc

There are a lot of very good and reputable shops out there.
Katech........ For sure is on the level. Vengeance as well but, not as long in the tooth and not as rooted as a business or in the community. Lingenfelter, since the old man died it's just body pieces. LG is legit, but they don't have any kind of turn around. And ECS, it's beyond me how they are in conversation. And we are only talking about Vette stuff. Otherwise, take a tour of Titans shop and tell me those other guys are in their league.
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