Just throwing this teaser out there.......
08-11-2015, 05:50 PM
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Just throwing this teaser out there.......
What makes more RWTQ then a new C7 Z06?
What makes more RWHP then a new C7 Z06?
Has no heat soak, no fade, and strait hauls the mail....
On just 7psi of boost, on a standard C7....
One of the BETA C7 i-1 ProCharger cars spotted on the set of a reality TV show in FL.
What makes more RWHP then a new C7 Z06?
Has no heat soak, no fade, and strait hauls the mail....
On just 7psi of boost, on a standard C7....
One of the BETA C7 i-1 ProCharger cars spotted on the set of a reality TV show in FL.
08-12-2015, 10:01 AM
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08-12-2015, 10:34 AM
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I like the innovation but when I saw this thing at SEMA two years ago I could not believe how big it is. Do you have a weight comparison of this vs say a F-1X?
Couldnt you essentially get the same results or very close by setting up say a standard blower for max impeller speed at your desired redline and then using a wastegate and a good programable boost controller to ramp up very quickly on the low end but limit peak boost on the big end? Or is this unit capable of even higher impeller speeds at lower RPM than that would achieve? Im assuming it may be.
Its a A+ for creativity in my book, I just could never get past the size of it nor have I seen anyone really push one to the limit to see if it is capable of making more power than a Whipple unit or even a less efficient TVS2300 unit.
Can you share more information as far as its operation goes and peak power it has produced?
Couldnt you essentially get the same results or very close by setting up say a standard blower for max impeller speed at your desired redline and then using a wastegate and a good programable boost controller to ramp up very quickly on the low end but limit peak boost on the big end? Or is this unit capable of even higher impeller speeds at lower RPM than that would achieve? Im assuming it may be.
Its a A+ for creativity in my book, I just could never get past the size of it nor have I seen anyone really push one to the limit to see if it is capable of making more power than a Whipple unit or even a less efficient TVS2300 unit.
Can you share more information as far as its operation goes and peak power it has produced?
08-12-2015, 03:12 PM
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That would be ideal, but I doubt theyll push that blower to that level unless some other shop does it...hope I'm wrong. I used to run ~23psi on my F1C. that thing moved out. 
08-13-2015, 11:19 AM
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A little confused and this may be a newbie (to the world of SC'ing) question.... But if the SC itself is programmable and you can switch to different modes which will put out different psi of boost...wouldn't you still have to re-tune the car each time you switch modes? Sorry for my ignorance...just trying to figure this all out. May be worth holding out for this over a standard centrifugal SC depending on what all goes with it!
08-25-2015, 07:01 PM
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I like the innovation but when I saw this thing at SEMA two years ago I could not believe how big it is. Do you have a weight comparison of this vs say a F-1X?
Couldnt you essentially get the same results or very close by setting up say a standard blower for max impeller speed at your desired redline and then using a wastegate and a good programable boost controller to ramp up very quickly on the low end but limit peak boost on the big end? Or is this unit capable of even higher impeller speeds at lower RPM than that would achieve? Im assuming it may be.
Its a A+ for creativity in my book, I just could never get past the size of it nor have I seen anyone really push one to the limit to see if it is capable of making more power than a Whipple unit or even a less efficient TVS2300 unit.
Can you share more information as far as its operation goes and peak power it has produced?
Couldnt you essentially get the same results or very close by setting up say a standard blower for max impeller speed at your desired redline and then using a wastegate and a good programable boost controller to ramp up very quickly on the low end but limit peak boost on the big end? Or is this unit capable of even higher impeller speeds at lower RPM than that would achieve? Im assuming it may be.
Its a A+ for creativity in my book, I just could never get past the size of it nor have I seen anyone really push one to the limit to see if it is capable of making more power than a Whipple unit or even a less efficient TVS2300 unit.
Can you share more information as far as its operation goes and peak power it has produced?
Power levels are limited to around what a D1SC is.
Efficiency of a centrifugal.
Boost curve of whatever you want
Effectiveness and lack of heat soak from an air to air.
And can be turned up/down and curves changed from inside the cabin.
There are some youtube videos that explain more.
For a guy thats not doing a built motor, and maybe just a cam, it really is the of the coolest forced induction options out there, that can be bolted on in a garage. (no fab)
08-25-2015, 07:03 PM
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A little confused and this may be a newbie (to the world of SC'ing) question.... But if the SC itself is programmable and you can switch to different modes which will put out different psi of boost...wouldn't you still have to re-tune the car each time you switch modes? Sorry for my ignorance...just trying to figure this all out. May be worth holding out for this over a standard centrifugal SC depending on what all goes with it!
I daily drive one on my personal vehicle with a LOT of miles on it, and switch modes all the time. (run low boost, when I fill up with sketchy gas out of town while towing, run more boost when I am at home and know I got good 91 in my area)
08-26-2015, 11:27 AM
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Back in the WW2 days of HP propeller-driven aircraft, engine manufacturers developed 2-speed (and sometimes 2-stage) centri superchargers to optimize boost performance for both high and low altitudes. For us, the issue is high and low rpm performance.
Currently, the centri solution is to "pulley-down" to increase low rpm impeller speed (increasing low rpm boost), and then add a restrictor plate to limit excessive high-rpm boost. While a simple and elegant solution, the engine is wasting HP overspinning the impeller at high engine rpm.
It appears that the CVT in the i-1 enables the centri to vary the impeller drive ratio (impeller speed) for optimum boost at any rpm.
On paper, it sounds like the killer FI solution. Looking forward to seeing more dyno/strip/sotp results.
Currently, the centri solution is to "pulley-down" to increase low rpm impeller speed (increasing low rpm boost), and then add a restrictor plate to limit excessive high-rpm boost. While a simple and elegant solution, the engine is wasting HP overspinning the impeller at high engine rpm.
It appears that the CVT in the i-1 enables the centri to vary the impeller drive ratio (impeller speed) for optimum boost at any rpm.
On paper, it sounds like the killer FI solution. Looking forward to seeing more dyno/strip/sotp results.
Last edited by tomlink; 08-26-2015 at 11:52 AM.
08-26-2015, 05:55 PM
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Definitely interested in this.
08-26-2015, 06:09 PM
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