Supercharger requirements /thoughts?
Drifting
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From: MI
I don't know about that Mike LSX. I bought a 1LT for 52k and invested $8,500.00 for a S/C and meth kit. 686 WHP. Nothing like $ 60,500.00 to blow the doors off of a $100,000 plus ZO6, what does the commercial say, the look on the ZO6 owners face when you blow past him.....Priceless
The z06 is a amazing car with factory warranty for 82k.
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Your comments on this topic are both flippant and ignorant at best.
I disagree with your "Needed" statement. The reason GM now requires "Dry Sump- Z-51 & Z06 engines" to have their oil changed at 500 miles is because they will blow oil if you drive them hard with the break-in high detergent oil. (Silicone sealant used on many internal parts breaks down with this oil and causes oil to foam if driven hard.) If enough oil blows out thru the PVC/ emissions system and into the air intake system, you can get the engine oil into the cylinders and actually hydro lock the engine. This will cause the engine to quit running!!!! And... bend or break other engine parts. While it is unlikely to happen, it has happened from earlier threads on this topic.
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From your posts, it appears you don't even own a C7.
Your comments on this topic are both flippant and ignorant at best.
I disagree with your "Needed" statement. The reason GM now requires "Dry Sump- Z-51 & Z06 engines" to have their oil changed at 500 miles is because they will blow oil if you drive them hard with the break-in high detergent oil. (Silicone sealant used on many internal parts breaks down with this oil and causes oil to foam if driven hard.) If enough oil blows out thru the PVC/ emissions system and into the air intake system, you can get the engine oil into the cylinders and actually hydro lock the engine. This will cause the engine to quit running!!!! And... bend or break other engine parts. While it is unlikely to happen, it has happened from earlier threads on this topic.
Your comments on this topic are both flippant and ignorant at best.
I disagree with your "Needed" statement. The reason GM now requires "Dry Sump- Z-51 & Z06 engines" to have their oil changed at 500 miles is because they will blow oil if you drive them hard with the break-in high detergent oil. (Silicone sealant used on many internal parts breaks down with this oil and causes oil to foam if driven hard.) If enough oil blows out thru the PVC/ emissions system and into the air intake system, you can get the engine oil into the cylinders and actually hydro lock the engine. This will cause the engine to quit running!!!! And... bend or break other engine parts. While it is unlikely to happen, it has happened from earlier threads on this topic.
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Team Owner
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From: cookeville tennessee
From your posts, it appears you don't even own a C7.
Your comments on this topic are both flippant and ignorant at best.
I disagree with your "Needed" statement. The reason GM now requires "Dry Sump- Z-51 & Z06 engines" to have their oil changed at 500 miles is because they will blow oil if you drive them hard with the break-in high detergent oil. (Silicone sealant used on many internal parts breaks down with this oil and causes oil to foam if driven hard.) If enough oil blows out thru the PVC/ emissions system and into the air intake system, you can get the engine oil into the cylinders and actually hydro lock the engine. This will cause the engine to quit running!!!! And... bend or break other engine parts. While it is unlikely to happen, it has happened from earlier threads on this topic.
Your comments on this topic are both flippant and ignorant at best.
I disagree with your "Needed" statement. The reason GM now requires "Dry Sump- Z-51 & Z06 engines" to have their oil changed at 500 miles is because they will blow oil if you drive them hard with the break-in high detergent oil. (Silicone sealant used on many internal parts breaks down with this oil and causes oil to foam if driven hard.) If enough oil blows out thru the PVC/ emissions system and into the air intake system, you can get the engine oil into the cylinders and actually hydro lock the engine. This will cause the engine to quit running!!!! And... bend or break other engine parts. While it is unlikely to happen, it has happened from earlier threads on this topic.
I love every vette I have had each has it on way of power & going down the road. But love this c7 better than any in all round every thing..
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From: cookeville tennessee
Man have you done any reading on this motor. Plus do you even have a c7 that you drive as a daily driver. ABOUT THE ONLY WAY I SEE THESE CARS NOT HAVING TO HAVE A CATCH CAN IS IF YOU DRIVE IT LIKE IT WAS A YOGO. Never getting over 70 mph because that is the top speed by law. The also never spinning the tires over at all.
But even then if the car is is a little over filled on the oil it will come over into the intake..
But even then if the car is is a little over filled on the oil it will come over into the intake..
Drifting
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,630
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From: MI
From your posts, it appears you don't even own a C7.
Your comments on this topic are both flippant and ignorant at best.
I disagree with your "Needed" statement. The reason GM now requires "Dry Sump- Z-51 & Z06 engines" to have their oil changed at 500 miles is because they will blow oil if you drive them hard with the break-in high detergent oil. (Silicone sealant used on many internal parts breaks down with this oil and causes oil to foam if driven hard.) If enough oil blows out thru the PVC/ emissions system and into the air intake system, you can get the engine oil into the cylinders and actually hydro lock the engine. This will cause the engine to quit running!!!! And... bend or break other engine parts. While it is unlikely to happen, it has happened from earlier threads on this topic.
Your comments on this topic are both flippant and ignorant at best.
I disagree with your "Needed" statement. The reason GM now requires "Dry Sump- Z-51 & Z06 engines" to have their oil changed at 500 miles is because they will blow oil if you drive them hard with the break-in high detergent oil. (Silicone sealant used on many internal parts breaks down with this oil and causes oil to foam if driven hard.) If enough oil blows out thru the PVC/ emissions system and into the air intake system, you can get the engine oil into the cylinders and actually hydro lock the engine. This will cause the engine to quit running!!!! And... bend or break other engine parts. While it is unlikely to happen, it has happened from earlier threads on this topic.
this engine NEEDS gas to run, this engine does not need a catch can to run. Again i am using the word need in its dictionary meaning. Sure maybe over time a catch can will help your engine run longer and better. That doesn't mean the engine needs it.
Last edited by MikeLsx; Oct 21, 2015 at 02:57 AM.
Drifting
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From: MI
Man have you done any reading on this motor. Plus do you even have a c7 that you drive as a daily driver. ABOUT THE ONLY WAY I SEE THESE CARS NOT HAVING TO HAVE A CATCH CAN IS IF YOU DRIVE IT LIKE IT WAS A YOGO. Never getting over 70 mph because that is the top speed by law. The also never spinning the tires over at all.
But even then if the car is is a little over filled on the oil it will come over into the intake..
But even then if the car is is a little over filled on the oil it will come over into the intake..
I drive my corvette everyday, and drive it hard. Will sell it when its time to buy something faster, and newer. simple as that. I just dont care. If my corvette needed a catch can, how am i driving it right now?
I will let the used car buyer deal with the carbon build up.
Last edited by MikeLsx; Oct 21, 2015 at 03:04 AM.
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Dazed Confused & Verklemp
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From: Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
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Default Supercharger requirements /thoughts?
Just bought a 2015 z51 a8 and want to add some more power. My question is, if I go the supercharger route, will I have to get a catch can and also run meth? Is there danger or damage that can come from just running the supercharger without those things?
Is there anyone out there running just a SC with no other mods and no issues (overheating, etc)"
We were later simply replying to someone
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(early production 2014 model)
Literally hundereds and hundereds of dyno pulls,
3 full track rental days at the road course
10's of thousands of "street miles"
Tires and Brakes later.
Still 100% stock other then blower, still kicking butt.
No leaks, No broken parts, haven't even changed plugs.
Runs 100% the same supercharger system and tuning our customers get, when they order a system.
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From: Bountiful Utah
Our DEMO car has had our blower on it, since it had 100 miles.
(early production 2014 model)
Literally hundereds and hundereds of dyno pulls,
3 full track rental days at the road course
10's of thousands of "street miles"
Tires and Brakes later.
Still 100% stock other then blower, still kicking butt.
No leaks, No broken parts, haven't even changed plugs.
Runs 100% the same supercharger system and tuning our customers get, when they order a system.
(early production 2014 model)
Literally hundereds and hundereds of dyno pulls,
3 full track rental days at the road course
10's of thousands of "street miles"
Tires and Brakes later.
Still 100% stock other then blower, still kicking butt.
No leaks, No broken parts, haven't even changed plugs.
Runs 100% the same supercharger system and tuning our customers get, when they order a system.
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From: Providing the most proven supercharger kits for your C5/6/7 609-752-0321
Just an FYI, we offer a tune file at N/C to anyone who purchases our supercharger kit. If you do not have tuning software you can just mail in your ECM when you start the install and I'll turn it back around the same day received.
We feel a "canned tune" is not sufficient to achieve the full potential of any supercharger system, so we suggest that you have it checked over by a local tuner.
I have a "canned tuned" Camaro on my dyno as I type this that safely gained 46 RWHP from a roots style blower kit, dollar per hp it does not pay to skip the last important step of the install.
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From: Bountiful Utah
I need to find someone willing to take me on a drive here in Utah that has a supercharged c7 so I can feel it.
Reading about centrifugal vs roots now and not sure what to do. I'd like to go fast when I romp on the pedal, and not have to wait until higher rpm to get the boost feeling, but also want it to not be uncontrollable as a daily driver or ruin my car.
I've concluded I will do a supercharger, and American Racing headers, and I'm okay with doing the meth and the catch can/breather. They're not too much extra and if it ensures I'm running things cooler and cleaner I think that's the way to go. Just not sure which direction to go to achieve all of the things I'm hoping for.
Real question: Am I asking the impossible?
Reading about centrifugal vs roots now and not sure what to do. I'd like to go fast when I romp on the pedal, and not have to wait until higher rpm to get the boost feeling, but also want it to not be uncontrollable as a daily driver or ruin my car.
I've concluded I will do a supercharger, and American Racing headers, and I'm okay with doing the meth and the catch can/breather. They're not too much extra and if it ensures I'm running things cooler and cleaner I think that's the way to go. Just not sure which direction to go to achieve all of the things I'm hoping for.
Real question: Am I asking the impossible?
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I need to find someone willing to take me on a drive here in Utah that has a supercharged c7 so I can feel it.
Reading about centrifugal vs roots now and not sure what to do. I'd like to go fast when I romp on the pedal, and not have to wait until higher rpm to get the boost feeling, but also want it to not be uncontrollable as a daily driver or ruin my car.
I've concluded I will do a supercharger, and American Racing headers, and I'm okay with doing the meth and the catch can/breather. They're not too much extra and if it ensures I'm running things cooler and cleaner I think that's the way to go. Just not sure which direction to go to achieve all of the things I'm hoping for.
Real question: Am I asking the impossible?
Reading about centrifugal vs roots now and not sure what to do. I'd like to go fast when I romp on the pedal, and not have to wait until higher rpm to get the boost feeling, but also want it to not be uncontrollable as a daily driver or ruin my car.
I've concluded I will do a supercharger, and American Racing headers, and I'm okay with doing the meth and the catch can/breather. They're not too much extra and if it ensures I'm running things cooler and cleaner I think that's the way to go. Just not sure which direction to go to achieve all of the things I'm hoping for.
Real question: Am I asking the impossible?
Personally I would say do it in stages, since you won't be "loosing" any money, because none of the parts you listed have any carry over install time.
1) Do the supercharger, on 7-8psi and enjoy that power level.
If you feel comfortable with that, and love how it drives leave it.
And you saved yourself some $$$
If you want MORE (which happens easy, since boost/power is addicting)
2) Add the meth, and headers down the road.
Drifting
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I need to find someone willing to take me on a drive here in Utah that has a supercharged c7 so I can feel it.
Reading about centrifugal vs roots now and not sure what to do. I'd like to go fast when I romp on the pedal, and not have to wait until higher rpm to get the boost feeling, but also want it to not be uncontrollable as a daily driver or ruin my car.
I've concluded I will do a supercharger, and American Racing headers, and I'm okay with doing the meth and the catch can/breather. They're not too much extra and if it ensures I'm running things cooler and cleaner I think that's the way to go. Just not sure which direction to go to achieve all of the things I'm hoping for.
Real question: Am I asking the impossible?
Reading about centrifugal vs roots now and not sure what to do. I'd like to go fast when I romp on the pedal, and not have to wait until higher rpm to get the boost feeling, but also want it to not be uncontrollable as a daily driver or ruin my car.
I've concluded I will do a supercharger, and American Racing headers, and I'm okay with doing the meth and the catch can/breather. They're not too much extra and if it ensures I'm running things cooler and cleaner I think that's the way to go. Just not sure which direction to go to achieve all of the things I'm hoping for.
Real question: Am I asking the impossible?
STS turbo is in orem or there abouts and they have a turbo car customer local.
Pfadt had the first supercharged C7 in Utah, but pfadt went out of business then joined with some other company. I don't know where that car ended up.
I'm sure there are a couple more around, but that's all I know about.
I'll eventually get mine done, but I have my first baby on the way so I can't drop $7k at the moment. I'll be waiting until the warranty expires anyways.
Drifting
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Personally I would say do it in stages, since you won't be "loosing" any money, because none of the parts you listed have any carry over install time.
1) Do the supercharger, on 7-8psi and enjoy that power level.
If you feel comfortable with that, and love how it drives leave it.
And you saved yourself some $$$
If you want MORE (which happens easy, since boost/power is addicting)
2) Add the meth, and headers down the road.
1) Do the supercharger, on 7-8psi and enjoy that power level.
If you feel comfortable with that, and love how it drives leave it.
And you saved yourself some $$$
If you want MORE (which happens easy, since boost/power is addicting)
2) Add the meth, and headers down the road.
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Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 68
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From: Bountiful Utah
Personally I would say do it in stages, since you won't be "loosing" any money, because none of the parts you listed have any carry over install time.
1) Do the supercharger, on 7-8psi and enjoy that power level.
If you feel comfortable with that, and love how it drives leave it.
And you saved yourself some $$$
If you want MORE (which happens easy, since boost/power is addicting)
2) Add the meth, and headers down the road.
1) Do the supercharger, on 7-8psi and enjoy that power level.
If you feel comfortable with that, and love how it drives leave it.
And you saved yourself some $$$
If you want MORE (which happens easy, since boost/power is addicting)
2) Add the meth, and headers down the road.
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From: Bountiful Utah
The only supercharged C7 in Utah I'm aware of has a Procharger kit. It was installed by Brock at Premier Performance a year ago.
STS turbo is in orem or there abouts and they have a turbo car customer local.
Pfadt had the first supercharged C7 in Utah, but pfadt went out of business then joined with some other company. I don't know where that car ended up.
I'm sure there are a couple more around, but that's all I know about.
I'll eventually get mine done, but I have my first baby on the way so I can't drop $7k at the moment. I'll be waiting until the warranty expires anyways.
STS turbo is in orem or there abouts and they have a turbo car customer local.
Pfadt had the first supercharged C7 in Utah, but pfadt went out of business then joined with some other company. I don't know where that car ended up.
I'm sure there are a couple more around, but that's all I know about.
I'll eventually get mine done, but I have my first baby on the way so I can't drop $7k at the moment. I'll be waiting until the warranty expires anyways.
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