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I have been reading and I do not see the downside of running M3-M5 instead of M1..

Its nice to have VP 10 min from my house so just curious to everyone's thoughts.
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no one?
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I've just always used M1.
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Thats what i said also josh so i couldnt be of any help
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Same here. M1 only.
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M1 only.
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Did anyone read about the m3? It seems like it would only help
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None of the above. I buy 55 gallon drums of pure methanol from a local oil supplier for less than $150 a drum delivered. Been running it on meth dependent cars over 1000whp for years. The VP **** is a rip off.
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It's 486 for a 55 gallon drum here 312 for 30 gallons and 53 for 5 gallons
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Found this

Q. If I'm using regular methanol now, should I try M3 or M5?

A. Unless you've already tried M3 with success (and M3 works great in many applications), I'd go right from regular methanol to M5. The range of applications that can benefit from M3 is slightly more limited than M5, while M5 will pick up virtually any application you put it in.

Q. Why does M5 work so much better than straight methanol?

A. In two words, BETTER VAPORIZATION. Regular methanol doesn't like to vaporize in the combustion chamber. It likes to stay in liquid form. In the combustion chamber on the combustion stroke, the engine needs to burn 2 things, fuel vapor and oxygen. If the fuel doesn't vaporize well, then you will have wasted fuel going out the exhaust. The hydrocarbons and nitroparrifins in M5 help to vaporize the fuel more efficiently. This way there's more fuel vapor in the combustion chamber and in turn the engine will make more power.

Q. How long can I leave M5 in my fuel cell between uses?

A.I recommend the same as Q16. If the car is going to sit for a week or so, drain it out and put it back in the drum. Also, the fuel will not separate.

QUESTIONS RE: METHANOL IN GENERAL

Q. Can M3 or M5 be used with a methanol injection kit?

A. I'd use regular methanol like VP's M1 for the injection. This is what I personally use. All you are using the injection for is to cool the air charge. This is how you get more power, because you can add more timing or boost with a cooler charge. M3 has a hydrocarbon in it and won't pull the heat like M1. M5 has a hydrocarbon and a combustion additive. I would definitely not use this. It could have bad results by combusting in the air inlet tube between the turbo and the throttle body. M1 is your best choice.

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Not necessarily, by that thought, all fuel is fuel, right?

I like M3, Hell, in a pinch, washer fluid works which is what, 80% meth as long as you get the right fluid?

But yes, in most cases, we are relying on the cooling of the meth. In some cases, we are spraying 10-15% of total fueling, if not more, worth of meth, so its a bit 2 fold, and really depends on the application.

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You only run M1 for meth injection. From VPs website

http://www.vpracingfuels.com/index.h...estion&ID=1997
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Originally Posted by Steven Popham
I have been reading and I do not see the downside of running M3-M5 instead of M1..

Its nice to have VP 10 min from my house so just curious to everyone's thoughts.
While you can run M3+ it's not recommended and likely a waste of money. If you have to use VP, M1 is the way to go.

Besides M3 and M5 smell horrible when driving around and gives me a headache.
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Thank you, I don't know if there is anyone else to get it from here, there headquarters is 20 min from my house. They have the market cornered. It sucks I can order it off line cheaper with shipping then I can locally from a manufacturer
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You can buy methanol usually from a local speed shop that sells race fuel.
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Also its likely that there are people at the local airport that have it for the planes but you usually need an inside friend to get that..
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Originally Posted by SquatchMachining
None of the above. I buy 55 gallon drums of pure methanol from a local oil supplier for less than $150 a drum delivered. Been running it on meth dependent cars over 1000whp for years. The VP **** is a rip off.
Any chance you in Texas? I need this deal!
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Any chance you in Texas? I need this deal!

Send some down here to me too! Lol
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That's what I'm thinking! Send 3 barrels
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You guys need to call around. The place I get it from us called Corey Oil, just a local bulk oil dealer.. Last drum was 155 delivered, just found the invoice.
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