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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 08:12 PM
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Default How would a cam perform without headers

Goin with a custom Spec Blower cam
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ported intake and Tb

What kinda Hp should expect to the wheels

And how would it perform without headers

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Originally Posted by Seannyc
Goin with a custom Spec Blower cam
E85
ported intake and Tb

What kinda Hp should expect to the wheels

And how would it perform without headers

If your doing a "blower cam" or really any cam why would you not just add the headers now?
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Originally Posted by kiley2418
If your doing a "blower cam" or really any cam why would you not just add the headers now?
I want them but I'm on a budget right now I'm not gettin the headers right now befor the install

I was just wondering how would the performance be will the car still give me good Hp or any issues

Adding the headers later I might have to run it at the 1/4 without the headers tho

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You will gain With cam either way.. As far as numbers kinda hard to say as all cam swaps I've seen have had headers as well.
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It will be fine without headers. The C7 stock manifolds flow pretty well. If you add headers on before the cam or after the cam you will get similar gains.
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Originally Posted by kiley2418
You will gain With cam either way.. As far as numbers kinda hard to say as all cam swaps I've seen have had headers as well.
Would u say with the mods I'm adding will get me in the 10's and traps from
127-130mph
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You should see between 455 and 457 HP at the wheels, but it could vary a bit if the E85 isn't exactly 85% Ethanol. Sometimes it is more like E 60 even though they label it as E85.
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Originally Posted by EcoBrick Bob
You should see between 455 and 457 HP at the wheels, but it could vary a bit if the E85 isn't exactly 85% Ethanol. Sometimes it is more like E 60 even though they label it as E85.
Not goin with a small cam it's a blower cam but it's aggressive they told me it adds around 55 to 60 whp sometimes 70 but I didn't ask if that's with headers is I could get 60whp from the cam alone I would be satisfied
Personally I don't want a cam that only adds 35whp lol

Reason I'm postin this tryin to see if anyone added a cam without the headers and how was the performance

I seen a lot of c6-z06's
Added cams without headers and they seen good performances
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Originally Posted by Silverboost
It will be fine without headers. The C7 stock manifolds flow pretty well. If you add headers on before the cam or after the cam you will get similar gains.
With the mods I'm
Doin will I see possible 10sec runs I'm really more into my trap speed I want high 120s to 130
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Originally Posted by Seannyc
With the mods I'm
Doin will I see possible 10sec runs I'm really more into my trap speed I want high 120s to 130
I'd say close prolly mid 120's range with good sticky tires (solid 60 ft.) low 11's to high 10's are possible is your car a8 or m7?

Haven't had mine to track since mods
Mines an m7 with
Halltech cai
Katech tb
Fasterproms ported manifold
Arh catless headers
Akra exhaust
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Put down 472/482
I'd say with the cam you should bring that range without the headers
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Originally Posted by kiley2418
I'd say close prolly mid 120's range with good sticky tires (solid 60 ft.) low 11's to high 10's are possible is your car a8 or m7?

Haven't had mine to track since mods
Mines an m7 with
Halltech cai
Katech tb
Fasterproms ported manifold
Arh catless headers
Akra exhaust
E85

Put down 472/482
I'd say with the cam you should bring that range without the headers
M7

I'm doin everything u have and cam except the headers tho

If a cam gives me let's say minimum 50whp
E85 say 20hp also ported intake and tb
20hp
I was thinkin more like 485 to 500hp

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I have always heard that in order to run a aggressive cam the way it should be ran you NEED headers.
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In my view, you buy headers for a C7 because you like the sound. Headers provide minimum gains on the C7. The stock C7 Cam has a pretty good design. I'd rather put my money towards a Supercharger. More bang for the buck and you don't have to open the engine. YMMV

I do have LT's because the C7 sounds a little wimpy to me with the stock manifolds and the twin cats.
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Originally Posted by MikeLsx
I have always heard that in order to run a aggressive cam the way it should be ran you NEED headers.

I have to find out
If It's really nessasary or will cause problems I have to get it but if not I'll hold back on it
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Originally Posted by C7-Beast
In my view, you buy headers for a C7 because you like the sound. Headers provide minimum gains on the C7. The stock C7 Cam has a pretty good design. I'd rather put my money towards a Supercharger. More bang for the buck and you don't have to open the engine. YMMV

I do have LT's because the C7 sounds a little wimpy to me with the stock manifolds and the twin cats.
I agree with the supercharger but the cam I'm goin with is for a super charger it will allow me to make more power with less boost also I could have good power with out the s/c

I'm just tryin to find out if I will get good power without the headers and make it into the 10's with my setup

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Originally Posted by C7-Beast
In my view, you buy headers for a C7 because you like the sound. Headers provide minimum gains on the C7. The stock C7 Cam has a pretty good design. I'd rather put my money towards a Supercharger. More bang for the buck and you don't have to open the engine. YMMV

I do have LT's because the C7 sounds a little wimpy to me with the stock manifolds and the twin cats.
You know one of the vendors here is making a primary cat delete pipe. should cost around 300-400 bucks and stupid easy installed compared to headers. that might be a great option instead of headers for people looking for more sound.
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Originally Posted by MikeLsx
You know one of the vendors here is making a primary cat delete pipe. should cost around 300-400 bucks and stupid easy installed compared to headers. that might be a great option instead of headers for people looking for more sound.
Yup, not remotely close to the LT's though. At least not at ~700 RWHP

header install was a joke. I just had someone else do it

To the OP, you may get into the 10's with your planned setup but there is a lot we don't know. M7 or A6/8? Drag radials? One of the biggest helps on the 1/4 mile is drag radials for the C7.

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Originally Posted by C7-Beast
Yup, not remotely close to the LT's though. At least not at ~700 RWHP

header install was a joke. I just had someone else do it

To the OP, you may get into the 10's with your planned setup but there is a lot we don't know. M7 or A6/8? Drag radials? One of the biggest helps on the 1/4 mile is drag radials for the C7.

Sorry
M7 goin with r888 on stock wheel. E85 ported tb and intake
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Just check the C7 Fast List that should give you a better idea.
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Wouldn't waste my time without exhaust personally
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