MSD atomic airforce intake results
Drifting
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If I remember right, I put down 440rwhp with a ported manifold and throttle body only before I built the 416. I never dyno'd the 416 by itself but I think it was around 550-575 with a tiny cam and now has the ECS 1500 and need to dyno it still but if the lb/min are close then it should be in the 950 rwhp range.
The TB is WeaponX and the intake manifold might be a Formato.....I can't remember, it's been a while since I got those.
The TB is WeaponX and the intake manifold might be a Formato.....I can't remember, it's been a while since I got those.
I'm goin with Ber Cajuns ported intake and tb
Safety Car
Joined: Jan 2012
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From: Cin City
St. Jude Donor '14
If I remember right, I put down 440rwhp with a ported manifold and throttle body only before I built the 416. I never dyno'd the 416 by itself but I think it was around 550-575 with a tiny cam and now has the ECS 1500 and need to dyno it still but if the lb/min are close then it should be in the 950 rwhp range.
The TB is WeaponX and the intake manifold might be a Formato.....I can't remember, it's been a while since I got those.
The TB is WeaponX and the intake manifold might be a Formato.....I can't remember, it's been a while since I got those.
Here's a time lapse of that going in too on our fb page which is pretty cool
https://www.facebook.com/WeaponXMotorsports/videos/1008713182539252/
Drifting
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A ported LT1 does good for a stockish motor but is still a restriction. It's a big restriction on my LT1 427 with my baro dropping over 10 points. I have the ported MSD here that we shaved the letters off of since it's ugly as F and the NW 102 TB ready to go on as soon as the new dyno is setup in the new shop
Here's a time lapse of that going in too on our fb page which is pretty cool
https://www.facebook.com/WeaponXMoto...8713182539252/
Here's a time lapse of that going in too on our fb page which is pretty cool
https://www.facebook.com/WeaponXMoto...8713182539252/
How does a ported intake do for a bolt on with cammed c7
Dazed Confused & Verklemp
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From: Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
If I remember right, I put down 440rwhp with a ported manifold and throttle body only before I built the 416. I never dyno'd the 416 by itself but I think it was around 550-575 with a tiny cam and now has the ECS 1500 and need to dyno it still but if the lb/min are close then it should be in the 950 rwhp range.
The TB is WeaponX and the intake manifold might be a Formato.....I can't remember, it's been a while since I got those.
The TB is WeaponX and the intake manifold might be a Formato.....I can't remember, it's been a while since I got those.
60 fts were low 1.8 but top speed was really hurt by DA at only 115. Also had some 11.9's. 15' A8 w/mag ride was very consistent. For comparison, Fyreant almost got into the 10's that day,(supercharged and has over 600 hp at wheels) but his top speed was only 121-122.
Will be interesting to see if this intake manifold produces bigger gains than a ported stock intake in very high HP vehicles.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jan 2010
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From: Cumming GA
A ported LT1 does good for a stockish motor but is still a restriction. It's a big restriction on my LT1 427 with my baro dropping over 10 points. I have the ported MSD here that we shaved the letters off of since it's ugly as F and the NW 102 TB ready to go on as soon as the new dyno is setup in the new shop
Here's a time lapse of that going in too on our fb page which is pretty cool
https://www.facebook.com/WeaponXMoto...8713182539252/
Here's a time lapse of that going in too on our fb page which is pretty cool
https://www.facebook.com/WeaponXMoto...8713182539252/
Pro
Joined: Apr 2013
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From: Detroit area and Nashville area What day is it? Between MI & TN
I wish it would take the stock cover in some regards...
Looks like this might be the next mod in the works for me. Would love to see more people installing / experiences before I drop a grand on a plastic intake though.
Looks like this might be the next mod in the works for me. Would love to see more people installing / experiences before I drop a grand on a plastic intake though.
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Instructor
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From: Raleigh
To bolt on 30 rwhp is great. There isnt much you can do to get those gains at that price. When we dynoed it we did a baseline then let it cool down installed the intake then dynoed it again. So its a true example of no other mods done just the stock intake compared to msd intake nothing else. I was supposed to post the dyno and some pics i took of the intake, but my trans took a dump and life has been too crazy to do so. Hopefully i can tomorrow.
Instructor
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From: Maryville TN
To bolt on 30 rwhp is great. There isnt much you can do to get those gains at that price. When we dynoed it we did a baseline then let it cool down installed the intake then dynoed it again. So its a true example of no other mods done just the stock intake compared to msd intake nothing else. I was supposed to post the dyno and some pics i took of the intake, but my trans took a dump and life has been too crazy to do so. Hopefully i can tomorrow.
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From: Garner NC
You will not achieve higher peak numbers with a stock engine and tune but your average from 5K+ up increases significantly and you will gain about 500 RPMs of useable powerband. I saw 15 to 35 RWHP at the top end when I bolted it on and dynoed.
At sea level you will incur a small hit in the midrange with stock tuning but on the A8 it is irrelevant.
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From: Garner NC
Drifting
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This comment is so wrong. From 5K+ the gains are significant up to redline even on a bone stock car. I'm actually tuning my MSD intake (16 Camaro SS) tomorrow on the same dyno Yonks used.
You will not achieve higher peak numbers with a stock engine and tune but your average from 5K+ up increases significantly and you will gain about 500 RPMs of useable powerband. I saw 15 to 35 RWHP at the top end when I bolted it on and dynoed.
At sea level you will incur a small hit in the midrange with stock tuning but on the A8 it is irrelevant.
You will not achieve higher peak numbers with a stock engine and tune but your average from 5K+ up increases significantly and you will gain about 500 RPMs of useable powerband. I saw 15 to 35 RWHP at the top end when I bolted it on and dynoed.
At sea level you will incur a small hit in the midrange with stock tuning but on the A8 it is irrelevant.
Burning Brakes
Joined: May 2008
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From: Aledo, TX
I attempted to get one of these installed but had issues with both units I got from MSD, both units had been partially assembled and returned to MSD for stripped screws in the three center screws. My mechanic followed the torque procedure to the letter and they still stripped.
I gave up after the second one did the same thing, my understanding is others have had the same problem. I have no idea why they don't come factory tightened, because you just install the manifold anyway on the car.
I was really looking forward to the mod but gave up hoping for quality improvements in the future.
I will say MSD was easy to work with and they even refunded me the labor expense I experienced with installing the unit and re-installing the stock unit.
I gave up after the second one did the same thing, my understanding is others have had the same problem. I have no idea why they don't come factory tightened, because you just install the manifold anyway on the car.
I was really looking forward to the mod but gave up hoping for quality improvements in the future.
I will say MSD was easy to work with and they even refunded me the labor expense I experienced with installing the unit and re-installing the stock unit.
