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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 10:30 AM
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I have noticed that quite a few c7 have had engine failers after supercharging... My friends 2014 stingray failed the day after picking his car up from the shop after having a supercharger installed....with that being said is it the valvetrain that is the problem like the C6Z
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 10:34 AM
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Majority of the time it's the tuning.
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 10:43 AM
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There is quite a bit of difference supercharging a DI engine and port injected. GM put thousands of hours on dyno. I think they learned a lot and the aftermarket is going to learn the hard way. Bottom line for me, I will not SC one of the DI engines except by OEM (Z06 or ZL1).

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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 12:18 PM
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I have noticed that quite a few c7 have had engine failers after supercharging... My friends 2014 stingray failed the day after picking his car up from the shop after having a supercharger installed....with that being said is it the valvetrain that is the problem like the C6Z
Not many C7s have the miles the C6Z's had on them when they started dropping valves. Most of them dropped at 22K and higher mileage. There was one reported failure at 13K miles. Excessive valve guide clearances in engines that are still operable aren't a failure. If somebody is trying to make the claim that valves are causing engine failures on the C7 they are probably trying to cover up an error they made. Your friend had a supercharger added which bumped the HP considerably. Unlike most people that have that done it sounds like he actually tried to use that added HP and over stressed the engine.

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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 01:17 PM
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More so than just having direct injection, the E92 ECM is a real mother. The combination of the two are really screwing up tuners who were/are really very good with port injected airflow based cars.

Even two to three years in, there is still a learning curve for many. If you think about it, the percentage of owners that heavily modify their cars in the first year, especially the first model year is drastically different than someone who buys a used vehicle of the previous generation with tech that is similar or the same as cars that have been out for 20 years.
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More so than just having direct injection, the E92 ECM is a real mother. The combination of the two are really screwing up tuners who were/are really very good with port injected airflow based cars.

Even two to three years in, there is still a learning curve for many. If you think about it, the percentage of owners that heavily modify their cars in the first year, especially the first model year is drastically different than someone who buys a used vehicle of the previous generation with tech that is similar or the same as cars that have been out for 20 years.
Higgs if one does blow their motor what is the common replacement you are seeing? Meaning if the LT1 DI motor is a pain in the *** and their was a catastrophic failure is it easier to buy an LS3 and put that in the C7 with the supercharger? I am assuming a new ECM would also be required but maybe the ecm from the c6 could work ?

I plan to eventually do the vengence drop in forged pistons and hope my car stays together for a long time. I am at 610rwhp now with meth and even after the pistons just plan to turn up the boost a little and do a blower cam. Looking to stay around 700rwhp or just under.

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The ECM, TCM, BCM, CCM, etc are very integrated so I would not go to an LSx.

I would also not put in a stock LTx if it is a non-warranty situation, go with a built motor.

Personally, if I were ever in the situation, I would leave the fuel system all stock and just add a new intake manifold with supplemental port injectors and a pump (maybe the CPR kit) to drive them. This is what Ford is going to, dual injection, and I think even the BRZ/FRS uses that as well.

I don't think LT4 stuff is needed and you can get away from meth and just have enough fuel to begin with.
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I personally know a lot a large number of people with modified C7s and not seeing failures. I think it has more to do with the shop and tuner than the car. The biggest frustration is that an LTX block is slow to market. Supposedly they went straight from GM to the race teams and no eta.
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It's the tuning, bottom line.
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Don't forget, there's GenV engines in the 2014+ trucks. A lot of those guys like hotrodding too.

Quite a few have forced induction.
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Most guys in Tunerville do work like these guys would:
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