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Old Sep 10, 2016 | 12:18 PM
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Going to supercharge soon and was wondering if anyone is running a catch can. I come from the turbo word where these are necessary lol.

Any other mods I should be looking at before supercharging?
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Old Sep 10, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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I installed one from Colorado speed, along with their clean side separator. Made a huge difference, especially at the track.
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Old Sep 10, 2016 | 10:41 PM
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A lot of people (me included) run catch cans even without F.I., because of direct injection and potential valve coking. Probably a really good idea to run one with F.I. as well, for the other reasons that you used one previously.

This thread will now turn into a debate over whether catch cans are needed or not, and if they actually help or not, like the 50 other threads before it. I will get blasted for endorsing the use of a catch can without having F.I., because GM would have thought of that, blah blah blah, and it will go on for pages and pages.
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What brand catch cans are people using for the C7? It looks pretty much the same as my ZL1.
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I take that back. I haven't looked at the dry sump system yet. Any good instructions on the install for dry sump?

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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by c0ke
Going to supercharge soon and was wondering if anyone is running a catch can. I come from the turbo word where these are necessary lol.

Any other mods I should be looking at before supercharging?
Run one for sure in these cars, plus if me would look at running 100% meth m1 on the car also. This will help feed the motor and also cool down you IAT temps. Robert
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Old Sep 11, 2016 | 05:42 PM
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What brand catch cans are people using for the C7? It looks pretty much the same as my ZL1.
I think the two most popular brands in use with non-supercharged applications are the Elite E2 (happens to be the one I use), and the RX Speed Works. The speed works has a valve to empty it, the E2 has a removeable bottom section (unscrews) to empty.

Both have available with a clean side oil separator for the dry sump models.

If you have a supercharger, it seems the breather tank setup is more popular. The two most popular I have seen discussed are the Lashway Motorsports (LMR) version, and the Florida Speed and Power (FSP) version. I think FSP may be out of business now though... not sure.
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I take that back. I haven't looked at the dry sump system yet. Any good instructions on the install for dry sump?
http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/c...y_Z51_REVC.pdf
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I'm supercharged, running meth and I do not run a catch can. I considered it and spoke with someone that makes a few different setups. His car was really bad and he needed one. I took a few things apart and sent pictures and he agreed my car looked much cleaner then his did. There is not one spot of oil showing any where in the pics I took. Not sure why some are worse then others. I'll keep an eye on mine and see if I have any coking from time to time but I would investigate your setup a little more before adding one just because some think it's nessasary. I'm in a dry sump setup.
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 08:08 AM
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As far as my experience goes, the only reason to not run a catch can is for emissions.

Otherwise there is no reason to be putting positive crank pressure and more likely then not oil, back in to your intake.

Going to check out the LMR catch can, brb
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by c0ke
As far as my experience goes, the only reason to not run a catch can is for emissions.

Otherwise there is no reason to be putting positive crank pressure and more likely then not oil, back in to your intake.

Going to check out the LMR catch can, brb
Most of the catch cans on here are emission friendly though. They simply catch oil from the PCV. Nothing is vented into the air.

There are a few vented setups i see floating around here, like the LMR.

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Looks like the LMR Catch cans vent to the atmosphere except they do it right in front of the cabin air intake. Might just make my own over the winter and see how it turns out.
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeLsx
Most of the catch cans on here are emission friendly though. They simply catch oil from the PCV.
We really do not know, do we?
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 05:54 PM
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In theory it shouldn't change emissions. You could have a shop test with and without.
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by c0ke
Looks like the LMR Catch cans vent to the atmosphere except they do it right in front of the cabin air intake. Might just make my own over the winter and see how it turns out.
They have improved it since that design, the new one extends the vents down in front of the box, instead of in the back by the cabin air inlet
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We really do not know, do we?
Do not know what? As long as the PCV system remains closed, the only difference from stock is the oil that's trapped and separated from the air (which needs to be manually drained).
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Old Sep 12, 2016 | 08:25 PM
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In California, they are not technically smog legal, since it is a direct modification of the factory emissions equipment without C.A.R.B. approval.
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In California, they are not technically smog legal, since it is a direct modification of the factory emissions equipment without C.A.R.B. approval.
catch cans arent really legal anywhere.

Its a federal crime to mod a emission control part or parts.

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Adding a splash of color to this thread; I see talk of sealed / closed cans and open venting cans.

My cans are a hybrid design and are both closed an open. Complete crankcase pressure control and stock like pcv function. They are also designed, manufactured, built, and shipped in the USA, usually less than a week from order to delivery.

If that sounds interesting or useful to you please check out the website or feel free to give me a shout. I build single can systems for stock to 1500hp on an individual basis based on your specific needs, and I also have complete turn-key systems depending if your build is 'Mild or Wild'

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Originally Posted by David@MMS
Adding a splash of color to this thread; I see talk of sealed / closed cans and open venting cans.

My cans are a hybrid design and are both closed an open. Complete crankcase pressure control and stock like pcv function. They are also designed, manufactured, built, and shipped in the USA, usually less than a week from order to delivery.

If that sounds interesting or useful to you please check out the website or feel free to give me a shout. I build single can systems for stock to 1500hp on an individual basis based on your specific needs, and I also have complete turn-key systems depending if your build is 'Mild or Wild'

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If I already have your "Mild'' Can on my c7, when I add the blower do I need to get the wild version? Would I need 1 or 2?
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