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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 06:20 PM
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You DO NOT need to do any of these adjustments in the software, the maps they give you are awesome and have been fine tuned by the pros, the only reason you need to attach to software is to do one minute thing called zero travel, takes like 10 seconds and all you need to do is say yes to 2 or 3 prompts.
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A huge benefit of tweaking things yourself is you can load different shock calibration maps into the Track mode profile. It gives you the ability to run in PTM Sport 1,Sport 2, or Race without having the super stiff OEM Track setting. For example, Mike suggested I load the Touring shock calibration into the Track profile for Sebring, a notoriously bumpy track. GM's rough track shock calibration is a joke compared to what this controller can do.

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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 12:59 AM
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OK. I am from Oklahoma so you guys are going to need to..... talk...... slowly.

I am not a techy guy and I must say that the software configuration ability has my head swimming. I can see that, if you had that aptitude, the ability to change the software parameters could be unbelievably satisfying. But, because I am not so inclined, I have a couple of questions:

1. Do I need to "mess" with the stock software setting, or will I see benefits from the installation of the V2 in base form. (I only track 2-3 times per year)

2. Is the unit now configured so that, if I decide to change the parameters, I can use wifi to do so?

3. I assume this will void the warranty on the mag shocks? That is not a huge concern for me, but I would like to know an educated guess on this issue.

To be honest, this thing is really cheap based upon the unbelievable reviews. I am simply terrified that I will screw up the settings or software. I have the reverse Midas touch concerning electronics - everything I touch turns to ****.

Thanks to any that will make me feel better.
You will be very happy with the unit as it comes programmed out of the box. It's pre-loaded with great settings for all OEM modes on the street.

Of course, you can endlessly tweak the settings to your own preferences if you're so inclined, but it's really not necessary. The difference from OEM is already remarkable enough. However, I can see where track folks would want to endless tweak settings for different tracks where different suspension set-ups can make a real difference.

Mike used the wi-fi connection to zero out suspension travel on my controller when I had my car aligned at DSC and the controller installed. It's already wi-fi capable on the recently shipped units, but he needs to finalize testing of the security settings, which will happen soon.

There's no reason to believe that this will void the warranty of, or affect the lifetime of, the MSRC shocks. It's not doing anything fundamentally different than the OEM controller in terms of sending signals to the shocks. It's just making "smarter" or more predictive damping adjustments through better use of sensor data.

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Old Jun 4, 2017 | 05:46 AM
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So interesting
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 01:42 PM
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I found this response from Jordan Edwards at DSC helpful:

Did I gather correctly that in Tour Mode, the new firmware offers a ride as smooth or better than Tour-Plush in the previous release, and there is little advantage to using the old Tour-Plush?

Yes that is correct.

and the benefits are that OEM is not active. It does not change based on what the vehicle is doing. The DSC changes damping rate based on what the vehicle is doing. This means it only stiffens up as needed. So it's nice and soft when you're just cruising, and adds damper for situations like hitting the brakes (adds front damper to hold the car up) or if you initiate a turn it stiffens up the outside, but leaves the inside nice and soft so you can crash the curbing. This is the case for all drive modes.

Think of it on a 1-10 stiffness scale. In Normal mode (OEM) it might be at 2. In Sport mode it might be at 5. In track mode it might be at 8. With DSC, in Normal mode it might operate from 0-6 (based on what the vehicle is doing), Sport mode might be 3-7. Track mode might be 4-10. (this is laymen's terms just to give you an idea, not actually numerically representative of what it's doing).
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 07:53 PM
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Just received my DSC Controller in the mail today and downloaded the software. Are there any tutorials on which buttons to press to "zero" the travel? I see something in the software that looks like it might be what I need but not sure if I have to select each corner then hit Zero or if Zero works for all 4 corners at one time. I know this is an old thread but I hope someone can help.
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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 10:35 PM
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Just received my DSC Controller in the mail today and downloaded the software. Are there any tutorials on which buttons to press to "zero" the travel? I see something in the software that looks like it might be what I need but not sure if I have to select each corner then hit Zero or if Zero works for all 4 corners at one time. I know this is an old thread but I hope someone can help.
Here you go...

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Old Mar 18, 2018 | 07:33 PM
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Just ran my first track day with my new DSC controller and Mike's track file loaded. Oh my, what a difference. It was at Eagle's Canyon in north Texas which is somewhat rough of a track. The car floated down the bumpy back stretch without slamming heads into the roof or jumping around under speed. It was really a great change to the car.
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So I have a LG drop spindles and am pretty low. I am looking into DSC to minimize my shock travel when hitting a dip in the road where my front tire is rubbing on the outer fender well lip.
What settings would help me?
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Old Apr 2, 2018 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by EMINENT 1
So I have a LG drop spindles and am pretty low. I am looking into DSC to minimize my shock travel when hitting a dip in the road where my front tire is rubbing on the outer fender well lip.
What settings would help me?
There's actually a virtual bump stop settings.
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Originally Posted by BrunoTheMellow
There's actually a virtual bump stop settings.
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Yeah, I know. Anyone know how to get the right settings applied or how to determine the values to set if i'm lowered on drop spindles?
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 10:01 AM
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Kinda stumbled on this recently and curious if anyone had has used it for drag racing and to let the car travel better? I know it’s not pre loaded with a “drag race” setting so curious if anyone has done it and had good results. Recently going 9.52 with bolt ons it’s my 60 foot I’m giving up as car is still spinning to a 1.40. Plus my car is driven on the street I do enjoy putting my stock rims on and throwing it around. So will be nice as I do not want to set the car up to drag race only and this is a great option to not kill the handling but get better drag ability. I can’t believe I haven’t seen anything about this on the camaro side of it not even from drag racers.
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Originally Posted by lt1z350
Kinda stumbled on this recently and curious if anyone had has used it for drag racing and to let the car travel better? I know it’s not pre loaded with a “drag race” setting so curious if anyone has done it and had good results. Recently going 9.52 with bolt ons it’s my 60 foot I’m giving up as car is still spinning to a 1.40. Plus my car is driven on the street I do enjoy putting my stock rims on and throwing it around. So will be nice as I do not want to set the car up to drag race only and this is a great option to not kill the handling but get better drag ability. I can’t believe I haven’t seen anything about this on the camaro side of it not even from drag racers.
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You're not alone. I'm curious about this, as well. While I have no love for drag racing, I do enjoy being able to use the power I have rather than spinning around all over the place.
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Originally Posted by -ZEEOHSIX-
You're not alone. I'm curious about this, as well. While I have no love for drag racing, I do enjoy being able to use the power I have rather than spinning around all over the place.
I have been talking with that company and if it works as they say this should be a game changer as dont have to rely on the soft tire like a 15-17 inch as the 18s and up will be relying on the suspension to do its job. I am about sold on it and moving forward. I also dont want a drag only setup as i do like putting my stock 20s on and driving the crap out of it. This thing will allow all that and have the best of both worlds so it sounds anyway. But I am liking what they are saying so far.
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So far, it's been pretty good for me. While I don't drag race, I can tell you from a suspension dynamic perspective that it's been fantastic. I've also been able to be more liberal with my gas pedal with fewer and fewer consequences. This is on the default settings. Once I can figure out the Accel Table, I think I should be able to make some good headway into it's straight line traction.
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Originally Posted by -ZEEOHSIX-
So far, it's been pretty good for me. While I don't drag race, I can tell you from a suspension dynamic perspective that it's been fantastic. I've also been able to be more liberal with my gas pedal with fewer and fewer consequences. This is on the default settings. Once I can figure out the Accel Table, I think I should be able to make some good headway into it's straight line traction.
Thank you for the info. They told me it has some sort of launch feature it might just be setup to do it when nailing it from a dead stop to help transfer weight better then stock setting and controller function. Im not sure what your mods are im around 800whp and when I am on my 20s and the stock tire its not fun at all as can blow them off at 60-80 mph and can get hairy. So if this thing is smart enough to make things like that better as you can control it by throttle input from what your saying I dont see why everyone wont be buying these. I hate how the car can be so temperamental and suspension feels more fixed then (smart) My wifes BMW x3 M40i when in touring its pretty plush but if you push it into a corner it will get stiff you can feel the body roll go away as you apply throttle. Where as the camaro is more this is what you have on this setting and if want more you best hit the button. Its a shame as I am sure this controller on a bone stock car could probably shave a lot of time from the ring time for a lot of GM cars. I am trying to work out a deal with them on a few controllers as now have multiple people interested in it. So waiting on an answer from them now as I am sold.
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Originally Posted by lt1z350
Thank you for the info. They told me it has some sort of launch feature it might just be setup to do it when nailing it from a dead stop to help transfer weight better then stock setting and controller function. Im not sure what your mods are im around 800whp and when I am on my 20s and the stock tire its not fun at all as can blow them off at 60-80 mph and can get hairy. So if this thing is smart enough to make things like that better as you can control it by throttle input from what your saying I dont see why everyone wont be buying these. I hate how the car can be so temperamental and suspension feels more fixed then (smart) My wifes BMW x3 M40i when in touring its pretty plush but if you push it into a corner it will get stiff you can feel the body roll go away as you apply throttle. Where as the camaro is more this is what you have on this setting and if want more you best hit the button. Its a shame as I am sure this controller on a bone stock car could probably shave a lot of time from the ring time for a lot of GM cars. I am trying to work out a deal with them on a few controllers as now have multiple people interested in it. So waiting on an answer from them now as I am sold.
I wish I could tell you I was heavily modified and this would be more of a direct comparison to what you're experiencing but, I'm not. As of right now, the only modifications I have to my car is just the stage 2.5 aero, lowering, Halltech CAI, DSC Sport V4 and their street/track alignment. Based upon what I see in their settings, it looks like the Accel Table will give you everything you're looking for if you fine tune it. But as I understand it, on the Camaro platform (I just came from owning a 1LE) it's a bit less refined and dialed in and requires more input from the end-user to get squared away. But what I can tell you, is that I can full on floor the car at 60 (it's base inputs via the Accel Table) and it dead hooks on the stock tires. Whereas before it would get a little loose or I'd have to roll onto the throttle. Now, I can stab it. I've been wanting to adjust that table so that it'll perform the same functions at say, 20 or 40 mph but, I haven't really done enough research to be able to say how that'll impact the functionality of the system. But, if you're asking about their own built in launch control settings, they explained it to me as putting your foot on the brakes, quickly stabbing the throttle to the floor, then launch control is active. As I see it in the tables, it looks like it just performs the same functions (softening the rear, stiffening the front) as the Accel Table does at 60mph, if that makes sense. From that point, I think you can either launch it yourself normally or maybe just use the built in launch control from GM. I haven't experimented with this at all because again, I'm not really into drag racing. Honestly, I'm probably going to keep the car around 700-750whp by the time I'm done and I 100% intend on keeping the stock tires (replacing them as I go along) as long as possible.

As for why people don't get it, I couldn't tell you, really. I could speculate, however. Likely because it's just easier to get some drag radials and call it good. Or whatever their go-to remedy would be for traction from an old-school perspective. But so far, each and every time I take my car out with the controller, I am continually impressed by it. I never thought I could stab the throttle at 60mph on the stock tires at 40 degrees out, without warming up the tires and have it dead hook, even on stock power. I think there's some fine tuning to do to get it to work like that everywhere but, I think it can be done.
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Old Jan 20, 2020 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lt1z350
Thank you for the info. They told me it has some sort of launch feature it might just be setup to do it when nailing it from a dead stop to help transfer weight better then stock setting and controller function. Im not sure what your mods are im around 800whp and when I am on my 20s and the stock tire its not fun at all as can blow them off at 60-80 mph and can get hairy. So if this thing is smart enough to make things like that better as you can control it by throttle input from what your saying I dont see why everyone wont be buying these. I hate how the car can be so temperamental and suspension feels more fixed then (smart) My wifes BMW x3 M40i when in touring its pretty plush but if you push it into a corner it will get stiff you can feel the body roll go away as you apply throttle. Where as the camaro is more this is what you have on this setting and if want more you best hit the button. Its a shame as I am sure this controller on a bone stock car could probably shave a lot of time from the ring time for a lot of GM cars. I am trying to work out a deal with them on a few controllers as now have multiple people interested in it. So waiting on an answer from them now as I am sold.
It sounds like this will be perfect for your street car. I bet it will help a lot on the street and a slight bit on the drag strip IMO so far. I have one but yet to set it up. Mine is a manual c7Z near stock power and I'm going to do 3.90 gears. I'll likely hit the drag strip a few times this year. I'll keep you posted on my experience if I get it up and running before you pull the trigger. I was hoping for the "better" of both worlds too. Keep it a perfect street car as it was intended but gain some straight line performance by utilizing the suspension. I see this working to a reasonable extent. I was also hoping there wouldn't be much tuning necessary on my part. I was under the impression that the file loaded in would improve all with a proper alignment. I'm ok with changing the tune for the strip and street but any more options I feel will be a lesson in futility at my level of patience these days.
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Originally Posted by -ZEEOHSIX-
I wish I could tell you I was heavily modified and this would be more of a direct comparison to what you're experiencing but, I'm not. As of right now, the only modifications I have to my car is just the stage 2.5 aero, lowering, Halltech CAI, DSC Sport V4 and their street/track alignment. Based upon what I see in their settings, it looks like the Accel Table will give you everything you're looking for if you fine tune it. But as I understand it, on the Camaro platform (I just came from owning a 1LE) it's a bit less refined and dialed in and requires more input from the end-user to get squared away. But what I can tell you, is that I can full on floor the car at 60 (it's base inputs via the Accel Table) and it dead hooks on the stock tires. Whereas before it would get a little loose or I'd have to roll onto the throttle. Now, I can stab it. I've been wanting to adjust that table so that it'll perform the same functions at say, 20 or 40 mph but, I haven't really done enough research to be able to say how that'll impact the functionality of the system. But, if you're asking about their own built in launch control settings, they explained it to me as putting your foot on the brakes, quickly stabbing the throttle to the floor, then launch control is active. As I see it in the tables, it looks like it just performs the same functions (softening the rear, stiffening the front) as the Accel Table does at 60mph, if that makes sense. From that point, I think you can either launch it yourself normally or maybe just use the built in launch control from GM. I haven't experimented with this at all because again, I'm not really into drag racing. Honestly, I'm probably going to keep the car around 700-750whp by the time I'm done and I 100% intend on keeping the stock tires (replacing them as I go along) as long as possible.

As for why people don't get it, I couldn't tell you, really. I could speculate, however. Likely because it's just easier to get some drag radials and call it good. Or whatever their go-to remedy would be for traction from an old-school perspective. But so far, each and every time I take my car out with the controller, I am continually impressed by it. I never thought I could stab the throttle at 60mph on the stock tires at 40 degrees out, without warming up the tires and have it dead hook, even on stock power. I think there's some fine tuning to do to get it to work like that everywhere but, I think it can be done.
Thanks for all the feedback
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Yes thank you very much for info. I’m placing my order tomorrow so if anyone has other things to update I’ll be watching the thread and also do my own evaluation on it when get it and let others know how my drag racing experience is with it in place and how much I believe it’s helping. If I can get my heavy zl1 to go nose up and *** down and hook better I’ll be pretty happy. At times if hooks really hard it can bounce and unload the tires showing the East is too stiff. So very excited to get this and see what all I can do with it. Feedback here has been great and helped me make up my mind on a fairly large purchase when it’s not directly related to adding hp. Lol
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