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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 01:40 PM
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TSP offers CNC ported cylinder heads for the LT1. This service requires you to send in your existing LT1 heads For them to port them. Unfortunately they do not list the flow rates for this service on what the expected flow will be afterwards. Anyone know what the flow rates are?

They also offer replacement aftermarket PRC heads and notate on the site the flow rate for those but that is not the same as what I am asking.

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Originally Posted by FYREANT
TSP offers CNC ported cylinder heads for the LT1. This service requires you to send in your existing LT1 heads For them to port them. Unfortunately they do not list the flow rates for this service on what the expected flow will be afterwards. Anyone know what the flow rates are?

They also offer replacement aftermarket PRC heads and notate on the site the flow rate for those but that is not the same as what I am asking.

Thanks in advance guys

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mine moved 360cfm I believe at either .600 or .650 lift
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mine moved 360cfm I believe at either .600 or .650 lift
Thats great to hear. Im planning to have them do my heads and have a call into them to get the numbers but the person there with the data is out right now.
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Originally Posted by T/A KID
mine moved 360cfm I believe at either .600 or .650 lift
Man that is moving some air on these heads. But also was told that these heads was so good that it was hard to improve on them any to what it would cost to have the work done. Robert
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Man that is moving some air on these heads. But also was told that these heads was so good that it was hard to improve on them any to what it would cost to have the work done. Robert
Texas speed was running a special.. they had just finished there CNC program! Factory heads flow around 300 (less then a stock Ls3 head) despite the 12 degree valve angle.. I think I paid less then a thousand and had them milled at the same time..

ls7 heads flow around 340-345 stock
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i would be more inclined to question how they perform the valve job and set the springs up than the porting.
Got to cover the basics first.
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Texas speed was running a special.. they had just finished there CNC program! Factory heads flow around 300 (less then a stock Ls3 head) despite the 12 degree valve angle.. I think I paid less then a thousand and had them milled at the same time..

ls7 heads flow around 340-345 stock
I talked with Lonnie at TSP and he confirmed that at .650 they flow 358CFM. Those are some great numbers! That, coupled with the five angle valve job, and skimming the head (milling if your going NA) cost me less than a grand. They are even going to install my Vengeance Racing springs, retainers, and keepers and set the spring height for me! Woohoo! Im ecstatic! All I have to do is ship them my heads now.
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Originally Posted by FYREANT
I talked with Lonnie at TSP and he confirmed that at .650 they flow 358CFM. Those are some great numbers! That, coupled with the five angle valve job, and skimming the head (milling if your going NA) cost me less than a grand. They are even going to install my Vengeance Racing springs, retainers, and keepers and set the spring height for me! Woohoo! Im ecstatic! All I have to do is ship them my heads now.
Sounds about right!!!
I'm 12.1 CR at around 12lbs on stock bottom end lt1.. I run flex fuel and I'm decent at tuning lol
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Originally Posted by robert miller
Man that is moving some air on these heads. But also was told that these heads was so good that it was hard to improve on them any to what it would cost to have the work done. Robert
I don't think the stock heads are that good. If they were, the LT1 would have around 500 HP instead of 460 HP.

Stock LT1 heads flow....

.60 lift-----285 I/208 E
.65 lift-----291 I/210 E

but the ported LT1 heads from Texas Speed flow....

.60 lift-----345 I/226 E
.65 lift-----358 I/228 E

Stock LS3 heads flow....

.60 lift-----316 I/189 E

The PRC LS3 heads flow.....

.60 lift-----358 I/235 E
.65 lift-----366 I/240 E

As you can see the ported C6 LS3 heads flow better than the ported LT1 heads.

A stock C6 Z06 LS7 head flows....

.60 lift-----351 I/209 E
.65 lift-----353 I/204 E

A PRC265 LS7 head flows....

.60 lift-----383 I/235 E
.65 lift-----388 I/241 E

A PRC285 LS7 head flows....

.60 lift-----386 I/235 E
.65 lift-----393 I/241 E

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Originally Posted by T/A KID
Sounds about right!!!
I'm 12.1 CR at around 12lbs on stock bottom end lt1.. I run flex fuel and I'm decent at tuning lol
12.1 on 12lbs?! Man thats pretty high for 12.1 compression! Im going to have forged drop in LT1 pistons, stage 2 cam, E85, etc. all kinds of goodies

Originally Posted by JoesC5
I don't think the stock heads are that good. If they were, the LT1 would have around 500 HP instead of 460 HP.

Stock LT1 heads flow....

.60 lift-----285 I/208 E
.65 lift-----291 I/210 E

but the ported LT1 heads from Texas Speed flow....

.60 lift-----345 I/226 E
.65 lift-----358 I/228 E

Stock LS3 heads flow....

.60 lift-----316 I/189 E

The PRC LS3 heads flow.....

.60 lift-----358 I/235 E
.65 lift-----366 I/240 E

As you can see the ported C6 LS3 heads flow better than the ported LT1 heads.

A stock C6 Z06 LS7 head flows....

.60 lift-----351 I/209 E
.65 lift-----353 I/204 E

A PRC265 LS7 head flows....

.60 lift-----383 I/235 E
.65 lift-----388 I/241 E

A PRC285 LS7 head flows....

.60 lift-----386 I/235 E
.65 lift-----393 I/241 E
I would agreee the heads have some room for improvement. Either way the heads will be much better than stock when TSP is done with them.
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Old Apr 20, 2017 | 07:37 PM
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Yeah stock LT heads do not flow that well, especially the exhaust port....They have a bad exhaust port.

Stock LS3/LS9/LSA heads outflow LT heads...
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Originally Posted by ajrothm
Yeah stock LT heads do not flow that well, especially the exhaust port....They have a bad exhaust port.

Stock LS3/LS9/LSA heads outflow LT heads...
Yes!!! With proper head flow, DI and more compression supprised they don't have an "LT2" that makes 500hp
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Yes 12.1 CR/stock cam and 12lbs of boost...
as time goes on you'll see higher comprsssion on a DI motor pretty normal..

LT4 is 10.1 and is ULTRA safe on a DI engine.. much like being 9.1 on a port injection motor (LS9)

It all goes back to proper fueling and spark.. your tuning window is much smaller on a higher CR engine so you have to be ok top of the tune..

I run e60 and meth (10gph) and max timing is 12 degrees and little less at peak tq and a simple 8 on 93.

With a Cam I would do even more compression and be able to get away with it due to dynamic compression
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I ran 12:1 static on my 416 with a blower and showed 91 lb/min on the maf. ran alright i guess.
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I ran 12:1 static on my 416 with a blower and showed 91 lb/min on the maf. ran alright i guess.
hahha yep!!!
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T/A, a couple of questions about your TSP heads..

1. Did your intake runners have a small hole in them where they were ported out exposing the bottom of the rocker bolt hole/threads? Mine have a small pinhole area on each of the intake runners like this. I read online that using some simple thread sealer will take care of this, I'm just not sure if that is normal or not.

2. Did you get any bench flow test results for your heads back from them with your heads showing how they performed?

3. What did the porting job look like? Were all areas of the ports touched by the CNC machine? Mine appears to have several areas that were not touched by the machine, and that may just be because there's no restriction there. It doesn't look like the actual ports where the gaskets mate up are any bigger.

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Originally Posted by FYREANT
T/A, a couple of questions about your TSP heads..

1. Did your intake runners have a small hole in them where they were ported out exposing the bottom of the rocker bolt hole/threads? Mine have a small pinhole area on each of the intake runners like this. I read online that using some simple thread sealer will take care of this, I'm just not sure if that is normal or not.

2. Did you get any bench flow test results for your heads back from them with your heads showing how they performed?

3. What did the porting job look like? Were all areas of the ports touched by the CNC machine? Mine appears to have several areas that were not touched by the machine, and that may just be because there's no restriction there. It doesn't look like the actual ports where the gaskets mate up are any bigger.

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1) yes!! That's common!! Just use some "right stuff" or similar sealant

2)I did not!! Texas speed always has a solid cylinder head (especially for the money)

3) there CNC job doesn't touch everywhere... it would need to be touched up by hand if you wanted that!! I think the head could be improved a little, but for what you get it's solid!! They took the bare minimum bc they didn't want to increase
port volume too much.

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Originally Posted by T/A KID
1) yes!! That's common!! Just use some "right stuff" or similar sealant

2)I did not!! Texas speed always has a solid cylinder head (especially for the money)

3) there CNC job doesn't touch everywhere... it would need to be touched up by hand if you wanted that!! I think the head could be improved a little, but for what you get it's solid!! They took the bare minimum bc they didn't want to increase
port volume too much.
Exactly what I expected would be the case

Thanks man!

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