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Old Oct 25, 2017 | 04:45 PM
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I've noticed that no matter how hard I apply the brakes on the street or track that the 5 red segmented brake indicator in the PDR will only show 2 segments and possibly a sliver more. Have watched many YouTube videos of C7s on the the track and they appear to do the same thing. The
only exception is a C7 Z06 on track that lit up 4 braking segments at VIR I believe. The accelerator 5 green segment display works fine.
Any ideas on why this is occurring on my '16 Z51 coupe?


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The red brake indication is apparently only a brake pedal position indicator.

I'd much rather see an indication of brake pressure, but that's not how it works.

If you have a nice firm pedal and have fresh pads, you can push it real hard and only get the position of the pedal to go down to a certain point.

As your pads wear down the pedal position may go down a slight bit farther than when the pads were new.

So....you can't tell too much from the brake indicator in the PDR video.

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Old Oct 25, 2017 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BEZ06
The red brake indication is apparently only a brake pedal position indicator.

I'd much rather see an indication of brake pressure, but that's not how it works.

If you have a nice firm pedal and have fresh pads, you can push it real hard and only get the position of the pedal to go down to a certain point.

As your pads wear down the pedal position may go down a slight bit farther than when the pads were new.

So....you can't tell too much from the brake indicator in the PDR video.

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I have an 18GS and was hoping they had fixed this issue, but no mine also works this way - disappointing. Do you know if the system records brake pressure and if its visible in the cosworth tools? Besides this one issue, very impressed with PDR, way better than the Porsche system where you need to mount phone on the windshield and connect via wifi to the car.
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Originally Posted by tgibrit
...Do you know if the system records brake pressure and if its visible in the cosworth tools?...
I've looked all over in Cosworth Toolbox, but don't see any brake pressure.

The pro version, Cosworth Pi, seems to have a lot more data, but I don't know whether it has brake pressure or not - I suspect not.

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The brake pressure isn't in the PDR file but an Aim Solo DL will capture it. To be honest though I'm not sure what difference it makes. You can quite nicely chart how your braking technique is using the brake pedal data in the PDR data. If the bars were based on brake pressure, what would be all 5 bars?
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Using brake pedal position as an input seems to make sense. I would rather see them use one of the accelerometer inputs. The way it's set
up now the only way to see if the brakes are fading (while reviewing, not
driving) is to use the G-bubble along with the brake segmented display.
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Originally Posted by Paul NJ
Using brake pedal position as an input seems to make sense. I would rather see them use one of the accelerometer inputs. The way it's set
up now the only way to see if the brakes are fading (while reviewing, not
driving) is to use the G-bubble along with the brake segmented display.
Thanks for the replies.
Lateral, longitudinal, and vertical acceleration are all in the PDR data.
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