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Old Feb 26, 2018 | 09:03 PM
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Can someone tell me where to find the wires for the rearview camera, somewhere up near the dash?
I am wanting to install a switch so that I can turn the backup camera on when I want to without shifting to reverse
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 04:53 AM
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You can turn on the backup camera without going into reverse. Push the camera icon and you can select to see the rear, but you need to be going under 10 mph or something in those lines.
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You can turn on the backup camera without going into reverse. Push the camera icon and you can select to see the rear, but you need to be going under 10 mph or something in those lines.
I wish GM would have given us the ability to turn on the rear camera anytime at any speed. I would like to leave it on while driving so I could easily see how close the person in back of me is following and when coming to a stop be able to see if someone is about to slam into me before it happens. The camera gives a clearer picture than a rear view mirror.

Having the ability to leave the rear camera on is no more distracting, no more dangerous than looking at the rear view mirror.
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 05:36 PM
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I wish GM would have given us the ability to turn on the rear camera anytime at any speed. I would like to leave it on while driving so I could easily see how close the person in back of me is following and when coming to a stop be able to see if someone is about to slam into me before it happens. The camera gives a clearer picture than a rear view mirror.

Having the ability to leave the rear camera on is no more distracting, no more dangerous than looking at the rear view mirror.
That is probably one of the reasons they don't let you do that. Looking to the rear while slowing for a stop is not a good idea. Keeping your eyes on where you are going and where you want to bring the car to a stop is what you want to do. Gazing at the rear camera display takes your eyes off the goal and even if somebody was going to hit you there isn't anything you could do about it anyways. What is behind you shouldn't worry you unless you are going to pull in front of it.

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That is probably one of the reasons they don't let you do that. Looking to the rear while slowing for a stop is not a good idea. Keeping your eyes on where you are going and where you want to bring the car to a stop is what you want to do. Gazing at the rear camera display takes your eyes off the goal and even if somebody was going to hit you there isn't anything you could do about it anyways. What is behind you shouldn't worry you unless you are going to pull in front of it.

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So looking at your mirrors while driving or looking in your rear view mirror while going 70MPH is less dangerous
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Old Feb 27, 2018 | 07:26 PM
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We’ve got a 2017 Tesla Model S and you can have the rear camera on any time you choose. I agree that being able to have the camera on all the time would be a nice choice to have on the C7.
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Originally Posted by Maxie2U
So looking at your mirrors while driving or looking in your rear view mirror while going 70MPH is less dangerous
Actually it is.

The mirrors are at a different eye level versus the screen, and are less distorted.

Your brain actually takes more time to process the image on the screen than it does to look in a rear view mirror.

People don't think stuff like that is true, but you'd be surprised to find out that it really does matter how many motions (no matter how minor) you make. If all you do is move your eyeballs, everything happens quicker.
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
Actually it is.

The mirrors are at a different eye level versus the screen, and are less distorted.

Your brain actually takes more time to process the image on the screen than it does to look in a rear view mirror.

People don't think stuff like that is true, but you'd be surprised to find out that it really does matter how many motions (no matter how minor) you make. If all you do is move your eyeballs, everything happens quicker.
The display on the C7 is high on the dash so it offers a good sight line for the driver. Besides, the information provided by the camera is more than just a novelty because knowing what is behind you or off your rear quarters can prevent accidents. Corvette owners are tech savvy smart folks, I’d say that Chevy should let the individual owner have the option to enable the camera when and where he or she see fit. Just my opinion.
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The display on the C7 is high on the dash so it offers a good sight line for the driver. Besides, the information provided by the camera is more than just a novelty because knowing what is behind you or off your rear quarters can prevent accidents. Corvette owners are tech savvy smart folks, I’d say that Chevy should let the individual owner have the option to enable the camera when and where he or she see fit. Just my opinion.
Chevy (or GM) doesn't make that decision.

It's actually regulatory, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know how Tesla is getting away with it. Probably they are in violation of something. Not surprising, Tesla isn't a professional corporation but rather a bunch of "cowboys" throwing together a car.
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I’m not sure how many equestrians work at Tesla but their vehicles are anything but thrown together.
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I’m not sure how many equestrians work at Tesla but their vehicles are anything but thrown together.
From an engineering standpoint they are very thrown together. Look at the panel gaps on the cars, the lack of a cohesive interface (the sprinkling for example of other OEMs parts). They can't even build the Model 3 in vast quantities because they don;t know how to manufacture things right. Doing manual processes on your vehicle assembly line for a mass produced car is a fail.

Every OEM at some point was/is a "Cowboy" and by that I mean they "shoot from the hip" which is to say they just DO things and they don't think about the consequences. Auto Pilot is a prime example of "Cowboying" something.
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
From an engineering standpoint they are very thrown together. Look at the panel gaps on the cars, the lack of a cohesive interface (the sprinkling for example of other OEMs parts). They can't even build the Model 3 in vast quantities because they don;t know how to manufacture things right. Doing manual processes on your vehicle assembly line for a mass produced car is a fail.

Every OEM at some point was/is a "Cowboy" and by that I mean they "shoot from the hip" which is to say they just DO things and they don't think about the consequences. Auto Pilot is a prime example of "Cowboying" something.
I’m sorry but I disagree. The value and success of a vehicle goes beyond panel gaps and the ratio of manual versus automated assembly.
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I’m sorry but I disagree. The value and success of a vehicle goes beyond panel gaps and the ratio of manual versus automated assembly.
You're talking about success, I'm talking about engineering process. I take it you're not an engineer, so really I'm not sure you're even qualified to have an opinion on what I said.
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
That is probably one of the reasons they don't let you do that. Looking to the rear while slowing for a stop is not a good idea. Keeping your eyes on where you are going and where you want to bring the car to a stop is what you want to do. Gazing at the rear camera display takes your eyes off the goal and even if somebody was going to hit you there isn't anything you could do about it anyways. What is behind you shouldn't worry you unless you are going to pull in front of it.

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If you ever have a chance to look inside the C7-R you will see the screen has the rear camera on at all times. As a car approaches on the left a red arrow appears on the left of the screen while the car is in the blind spot and if a car approaches on the right blind spot a red arrow displays on the right. Now they are better drivers than most of us and they are only doing 160 mph but they use cameras and mirrors.
Just saying as an old retired racer
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If you ever have a chance to look inside the C7-R you will see the screen has the rear camera on at all times. As a car approaches on the left a red arrow appears on the left of the screen while the car is in the blind spot and if a car approaches on the right blind spot a red arrow displays on the right. Now they are better drivers than most of us and they are only doing 160 mph but they use cameras and mirrors.
Just saying as an old retired racer
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They also DO NOT have a rear view mirror due to wing obstruction. The screen is mounted very high up to replace the mirror.
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They also DO NOT have a rear view mirror due to wing obstruction. The screen is mounted very high up to replace the mirror.
True they don’t have a rear view mirror but the screen is elevated only about 4 inches. See below

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True they don’t have a rear view mirror but the screen is elevated only about 4 inches. See below

https://images.google.com/imgres?img...ce=sh%2Fx%2Fim
I play Forza on my Xbox, which actually has everything in the right spot for all cars.

The screen on a race car is high enough to where it's not a bother to glance at, just like a rear view mirror.

And yes, even in video games you need to use the rear view mirror/camera.
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
Actually it is.

The mirrors are at a different eye level versus the screen, and are less distorted.

Your brain actually takes more time to process the image on the screen than it does to look in a rear view mirror.

People don't think stuff like that is true, but you'd be surprised to find out that it really does matter how many motions (no matter how minor) you make. If all you do is move your eyeballs, everything happens quicker.
So it takes the brain more time to process an image on a screen than an image in a mirror? Got any real data to back up that wild claim?

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The display on the C7 is high on the dash so it offers a good sight line for the driver. Besides, the information provided by the camera is more than just a novelty because knowing what is behind you or off your rear quarters can prevent accidents. Corvette owners are tech savvy smart folks, I’d say that Chevy should let the individual owner have the option to enable the camera when and where he or she see fit. Just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by LT1 Z51
Chevy (or GM) doesn't make that decision.

It's actually regulatory, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know how Tesla is getting away with it. Probably they are in violation of something. Not surprising, Tesla isn't a professional corporation but rather a bunch of "cowboys" throwing together a car.
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