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Old Dec 21, 2018 | 09:46 PM
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Hello guys,first off just wanted to thank everyone with they’re helpful tips for a header install. I’m by no means a mechanic I am however very particular on making sure all is done right and everything looks professionally done. I went with kooks headers. 1 7/8 with the high flow cats.I really took my time and found a great deal on a used set for about half the price.They looked almost new. Install was a bit of time,I bet I have at least 16 hrs in my install but again I am very picky and if wiring wasn’t looking perfect and out of the way and fastened well out of harms way,I would redo the route.(I put in an afr gage with ethanol content reader also.bung is already in headers for the afr) install was fairly straight forward and my car is a z51 so I removed dry sump lines only .2 minutes and made things easy. If someone says to take something off cuz it makes it easier for install just do it. Headers just fell in place from bottom and I have to say they look like absolute artwork!! Kooks did an amazing job! I couldn’t believe how crappy the stock manifolds are once off and heavy! Garbage. Just seeing the things I replaced was worth it alone. Soooo much cleaner. Then the real good........the start up. This wasn’t all that much of a huge difference. Then off I went for a short run on my cold Ohio roads. And wow as those rpms climbed so did that amazing sound!! Not so much like a muscle car but more exotic. The party kept ending around 3800-4200 thru the 7 speed cuz the tires would break loose but even so I was greatly satisfied!!! Fitment was spot on with no bending or adding shims to the belly pan or any other bandaids to make the job perfect.no rubbing,no noises. If your on the fence I’d say it’s a no brainer!! Can’t wait to tune(yes tune) and some warmer temps!! Thx again for all your input! Gary
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Old Dec 21, 2018 | 09:51 PM
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Awesome Gary !

Looks like headers are in my future now also , I was on the fence on doing it myself but I am like you ....I want to make sure it's done right

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Congrats on your install
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Congrats!!! I have the same LTs, but with Kooks Green catted x-pipe and absolutely love the setup. Fit and finish was amazing. I keep telling people to get rid of all the factory junk exhaust components between the engine and axle backs, but folks keep wanting to dick around with swapping out either the x-pipe or axle backs. Even with a tune the hp/dollar ratio isn't very rewarding, but the sound is worth every damn penny and busted knuckles received during the install. They should have come from the factory like this.

On edit: I meant to also add that I totally agree with the headers/high flow cats yielding an exotic sound. These LT series engines definitely sound different than the LS series with similar exhaust setup and I'm really digging it.

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I agree 100% lakemg. I believe you were one of the guys who made me jump the fence. I’m am very pleased. And with the npp(like you I believe) can make it sound stock with no drone!!! What’s not to like????

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Old Dec 22, 2018 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Gary barnes 1098
I agree 100% lakemg. I believe you were one of the guys who made me jump the fence. I’m am very pleased. And with the npp(like you I believe) can make it sound stock with no drone!!! What’s not to like????
Yes sir...Glad to hear that you like it as well as I do. The NPP sounds excellent with this setup and if you do get a little bit of highway drone, switching the NPP to stealth makes it immediately disappear. Really no need for aftermarket axlebacks in my opinion.

As a side note, what part of OH are you in? I'm just a little north of Cincinnati.
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Old Dec 22, 2018 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary barnes 1098
Hello guys,first off just wanted to thank everyone with they’re helpful tips for a header install. I’m by no means a mechanic I am however very particular on making sure all is done right and everything looks professionally done. I went with kooks headers. 1 7/8 with the high flow cats.I really took my time and found a great deal on a used set for about half the price.They looked almost new. Install was a bit of time,I bet I have at least 16 hrs in my install but again I am very picky and if wiring wasn’t looking perfect and out of the way and fastened well out of harms way,I would redo the route.(I put in an afr gage with ethanol content reader also.bung is already in headers for the afr) install was fairly straight forward and my car is a z51 so I removed dry sump lines only .2 minutes and made things easy. If someone says to take something off cuz it makes it easier for install just do it. Headers just fell in place from bottom and I have to say they look like absolute artwork!! Kooks did an amazing job! I couldn’t believe how crappy the stock manifolds are once off and heavy! Garbage. Just seeing the things I replaced was worth it alone. Soooo much cleaner. Then the real good........the start up. This wasn’t all that much of a huge difference. Then off I went for a short run on my cold Ohio roads. And wow as those rpms climbed so did that amazing sound!! Not so much like a muscle car but more exotic. The party kept ending around 3800-4200 thru the 7 speed cuz the tires would break loose but even so I was greatly satisfied!!! Fitment was spot on with no bending or adding shims to the belly pan or any other bandaids to make the job perfect.no rubbing,no noises. If your on the fence I’d say it’s a no brainer!! Can’t wait to tune(yes tune) and some warmer temps!! Thx again for all your input! Gary
you didn't remove the valve covers as i see normally suggested?
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you didn't remove the valve covers as i see normally suggested?
he did ..... Gary and I have been talking ..........

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You mean the valve cover covers right?
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I removed the passenger valve cover. The aluminum one. It took all of 5 minutes and made things much easier. Believe me I hate removing things if I don’t have to but really was worth it. I’m in Youngstown!!
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^^Gotcha...Did you also remove the fuse block on the passenger side?
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Yes. This is a must. Again not a big deal. However the nut on rear of fuse block holding down power lines was as usual frozen. The answer for this was a TINY pencil torch to heat the nut for about 15 seconds or so and voila.
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Thanks...was just wondering if removing the valve cover allowed you enough access to things without having to remove the fuse block, because I removed my fuse block but didn't remove the valve cover.
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Yea your correct,the fuse block is the most important one to remove,but the valve cover helped more than you think it would.
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Thanks. Will have to remember that if I ever do or help with another install.
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Don't you have to get a tune with the long tubes? I never understood why you would need a tune for anything exhaust related but have been seeing that it was neccessary.
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You will get a code most likely. The car runs leaner. Many people don’t tune it and have no issues,however still get a cel. You will not reap all the benefits out of the headers if you don’t tune. Mine will be tuned as soon as the Ohio weather allows me.
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Originally Posted by Gary barnes 1098
You will get a code most likely. The car runs leaner. Many people don’t tune it and have no issues,however still get a cel. You will not reap all the benefits out of the headers if you don’t tune. Mine will be tuned as soon as the Ohio weather allows me.
Gotcha, cool thanks. I'd prefer a tune anyway lol.
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Originally Posted by Gary barnes 1098
Yes. This is a must. Again not a big deal. However the nut on rear of fuse block holding down power lines was as usual frozen. The answer for this was a TINY pencil torch to heat the nut for about 15 seconds or so and voila.
Where are you getting it tuned? I’m in Youngstown too. 17 GS convertible. I’ve been on the fence about headers for sometime now. There is a corvette dealer in Columbiana that told me $300 for a header install and they have tuning done at Hutter Performance. They like Stainless Works headers. ARH and LG stepped are on my shortlist if I ever man up. Stainless Works are local so I might consider them too.
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Old Dec 22, 2018 | 08:58 PM
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300$ is a bargain! I’d be concerned about them doing it right for that amount of money. As far as tuning goes I’m leaning towards Dynotune Motorsports in Galloway Ohio. I believe he’s just north of Columbus. He seems to understand e85 and I’m running that setup also.i actually haven’t heard of the tuner your thinking about just do some research. If anybody has any recommendations let me know!!! Thx
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