No lift shift...nervous
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Instructor
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From: Corning, NY
No lift shift...nervous
I’m new to all this so bear with me. I’d appreciate it. I have a z06 on the stock tires and I want to try it but I’ve had a couple times on it in second gear shifting regular where it got a little squirrely. Maybe the tires just weren’t warm enough yet but it’s made me nervous. Will the traction control and stability control keep me straight if that happens? Because it seems to me with a no lift shift it would even be a more powerful shift and I might break the tires loose. I know there are a lot of variables but does anyone have any experience where they have spun the tires and gotten out of control? I’ll just be doing a few highway rolls when no one’s out and around.
Last edited by 321gooo; Nov 23, 2021 at 10:53 PM.
Burning Brakes
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St. Jude Donor '19
Rightfully so for being nervous. I am no pro with NLS and have only done it a handful of times. But in my experience I have only done it when my tires were warm and from 2nd gear up. I've never tried it from 1st gear up. One 1st gear is so quick and Two for the same concerns you mentioned. Maybe a NLS pro will chime in.
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From: Corning, NY
Rightfully so for being nervous. I am no pro with NLS and have only done it a handful of times. But in my experience I have only done it when my tires were warm and from 2nd gear up. I've never tried it from 1st gear up. One 1st gear is so quick and Two for the same concerns you mentioned. Maybe a NLS pro will chime in.
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Really 3-4 is the only one I usually do. I rarely shift 1-2 while going fast as I dont do drag strips anyways. 2-3 I have sometimes but you'll end up money shifting 2-1 trying to make a fast shift. It can be dangerous. The speed you'll gain is only helpful if you're trying to better your ET by hundredths of a second.
Last edited by BrunoTheMellow; Jun 29, 2019 at 02:27 PM.
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Only drive as YOU are comfortable. The street (assuming that is the context) is no place to be "squirrely." The car is impressive enough; you don't have to muck it up trying to be even more so. All the best and ENJOY! 
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The first thing is you need to be sure you know how to shift the car. No grabbing the shifter like a pistol. Put the palm of your hand on top of the shifter and use it to pull shove the shifter. 1-2 is a pull back with the finger tips with the palm exerting a slight leftward pressure so the shifter doesn't go into 4th. The 2-3 shift is a shove with the heel of the hand forward with minimal pressure to the right. When the shifter gets to the gate the transmission will automatically put itself in the middle of the 3-4 gate so all you have to do is keep shoving forward with the hell of the hand. 3-4 shift is a pull straight back with the finger tips and the 4-5 shift is a forward push with the heel of hand with more pressure to move the shifter over to the 5-6 gate. This takes more right pressure toward the right since you are fighting the transmission centering force. You don't need to be right at red line to practice NLS. Run the engine up in 4th at WOT and pull the shifter to 4th at about 4K rpm. Once you see how it works and are comfortable moving the shifter properly then try a 2-3 shift at 4K rpm at WOT and so on until you get comfortable then go to a track and do some 2-3, 3-4 and 4-5 shifts at redline with the throttle Wide Open.
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Just my 2 cents and that is about what it is worth. Grew up power shifting old muncies in gm muscle cars when 300 rwhp was a lot and had to squeeze every little bit of power out of it you could. Continuted with vettes and by the time my c5 was doing 400 rwhp, was spinning more tires and without slicks didn't feel like I was gaining much by powershifting. My wifes c7 is an auto and I can't power shift it but unless your really needing that extra couple 0.01s of a second power shifting may not be your best bet. It's fun but missing a shift can float your valves, wear your syncro rings and if traction control is on it may defeat any gains in times you achieve. Spoken like a 51 year old who has R&Rd to many transmissions.
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