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Old Aug 25, 2019 | 09:17 AM
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LoL what do you mean isnt AMD better than Intel lol lol lol lol

I agree and said so at the beginning of my post, no matter what you type you use , no matter what calibration , if used correctly a dyno is used just to measure gains and the ultimate determining factor is how does it perform on the street and strip . I have some friends that got dyno tuned by so called experts. they made big numbers on the dyno but the cars performed like crap on the street and they ended up having to have the tune done over .......

PS , I am an Intel Fanboy lol

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Old Aug 25, 2019 | 10:22 AM
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There are dyno shops using Mustang dynos here in southern california that are calibrated to read higher. Mustang dynos make that adjustment WAY easier than most, and so everyone who dynos their car at one of these shops automatically thinks, "It's a mustang dyno! these numbers are great!" when in reality they're inflated the wrong way.

This idea that all mustang dynos read low just has to stop. It's not always true
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Old Aug 25, 2019 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sellout
There are dyno shops using Mustang dynos here in southern california that are calibrated to read higher. Mustang dynos make that adjustment WAY easier than most, and so everyone who dynos their car at one of these shops automatically thinks, "It's a mustang dyno! these numbers are great!" when in reality they're inflated the wrong way.

This idea that all mustang dynos read low just has to stop. It's not always true
That’s all I was trying to say, all three of the major dynos are great tools if used correctly, all depends on the data loaded into each and who’s operating and tuning, you can have a mustang read high or low, a DynoJet read high or low but the real world data coming out of each shop should match up power vs time slips regardless. If a shop with over inflated dyno numbers is consistently putting out high time slips or vice versa then it’s a problem. Again I had a mustang dyno sheet from the previous owner of my car read 30whp higher then a DynoJet, they are only as good as the info loaded into them. One thing that proved that was ironically the power number from the shop with the mustang dyno was literally the exact HP number on the procharger P1SC1 paperwork...@4psi on an LS7 637whp....dyno sheet read 637whp magically...DynoJet had it at 607whp that’s a shop just making it say what would make the customer happy and not questions anything....that particular shop also did a bunch of other wrong **** with the car and the tune backing up the shadyness of their work.

I almost think dave is confused by the avg. HP loss from crank to fly wheel(also a subjective number) but you’ll hear anywhere from 10-15% loss from crank to wheels. Seems he’s applying that number to a specific dyno brand. 15% is just crazy silly talk on it’s face. Just trying to clear up typical internet rumors and “fake news” one thread at a time when I have useful information to do so

Also why I try and let people know about the “dragy” device. Having a GPS logged time to go with a dyno number really helps to attempt to answer questions like “are these dyno numbers correct” specifically a 60mph-130mph time, it’s a true reading of power and acceleration that takes damn near all of the driver skill out of the equation unlike a 0-60 or 1/4 mile time. 60-130 is pretty much all on the car and even novice drives can get great readings without being an excellent driver, no launch or reaction times to deal with, just smash the gas and make a shift or two max. Auto eliminates all the user error.

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Old Aug 25, 2019 | 11:08 AM
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Wow just like my kids, got to have the last word .......no I am not confused by drive train loss , I said it before anyone can manipulate a dyno to read anything they want it to read ...

If both are setup properly with the OP's bolt on mods a dynojet depending on DA etc. will usually be around 430 RWH and is pretty close to being accurate proven by the thousands of people who have the same mods and gone to the track and ran low 11 second runs with 118 to 120 MPH
But a Mustang will read low most of the time depending on how the operator has it setup .... and as stated above anyone can manipulate a mustang or a dynojet to read the same ....

Look you guys can all say what you want to say I really don't care . I said it before YOU WIN .......

A dyno is just a tool and as long as you use the same dyno same settings etc you can measure your gains or loss , it does not matter what the number is at the end of the day

I am out ........

Dave

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Old Aug 25, 2019 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Wow just like my kids, got to have the last word .......no I am not confused by drive train loss , I said it before anyone can manipulate a dyno to read anything they want it to read ...

If both are setup properly with the OP's bolt on mods a dynojet depending on DA etc. will usually be around 430 RWH and is pretty close to being accurate proven by the thousands of people who have the same mods and gone to the track and ran low 11 second runs with 118 to 120 MPH
But a Mustang will read low most of the time depending on how the operator has it setup .... and as stated above anyone can manipulate a mustang or a dynojet to read the same ....

Look you guys can all say what you want to say I really don't care . I said it before YOU WIN .......

A dyno is just a tool and as long as you use the same dyno same settings etc you can measure your gains or loss , it does not matter what the number is at the end of the day

I am out ........

Dave
It only took two pages lol, Dave everything you said in this post is pretty damn fair and accurate, I think most would agree, see when you take out the crazy 15% stuff you sound logical, experienced and in general nothing really for anyone to argue or correct.

no hard feelings Dave seriously
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