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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 11:17 PM
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I recently purchased my first Corvette (used 2019 Stingray coupe 1 LT), base model with 7 speed manual and no Z51 package or magnetic ride. Only had 1200 miles and got a smokin deal. I've been playing around with the different drive modes and don't notice any difference in the suspension between the sport mode and track mode. Am I correct in assuming the suspension is the same in those two modes since no Z51 package or magnetic ride? I also believe the throttle progression is improved in the track mode compared to sport mode and the steering a bit stiffer. I appreciate the feed back, thanks.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 11:26 PM
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Correct I have a 17 base the suspension will not react to the modes but if you have the npp exhaust you should hear the tone change, the steering should also get tighter or loser and the throttle response. If you go into the settings on the infotainment screen you can set your preferred steering and exhaust tone.
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Old Jul 30, 2019 | 11:31 PM
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Thank you. That's what I was thinking. I have changed the steering and the exhaust to track in the infotainment system. I just have the base exhaust, so not sure if its the one you wee referring to.
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Old Jul 31, 2019 | 02:08 PM
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if you have the base exhaust, the settings in the config wont do anything either. i dont have npp either, but that means we're free to put whatever want on there, where aftermarket is concerned.
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Thanks. The owners manual is so broad that it doesn't properly explain the differences between the base Stingray without the Z51 and performance exhaust to the ones that have the Z51, magnetic ride etc. So really the only thing that changes with the driver modes for us is the throttle progression it seems....
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If you want to make a simple improvement to your base suspension, do as many of us here have... spend a little over $300 and get the Z51 sway-bars. Simple addition, but I recommend checking and topping-off your differential before adding the rear bar (easier to get to), since many if not most are shipped low (unlike the tranny).

Btw, I bought my bars as a complete kit from Cultrag's and I highly recommend them. There are a number of threads here about the bar swap
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Thanks for the info. I see the Cultrag's parts also have the magnetic ride option which I do not have. If I add the Z51 sway bars, will the suspension sync up with the driving modes like the factory Z51 equipped vehicles? ie: will the suspension change from Track, Sport, weather mode etc with the dial change? Thanks
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 12:02 AM
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Thanks for the info. I see the Cultrag's parts also have the magnetic ride option which I do not have. If I add the Z51 sway bars, will the suspension sync up with the driving modes like the factory Z51 equipped vehicles? ie: will the suspension change from Track, Sport, weather mode etc with the dial change? Thanks
No. You do not have the magnetic shocks on your car. You also cannot add them to a base car.

It is possible to add the NPP exhaust to your car. Do a forum search and you can see how to do it.
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Got it thanks for the info
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You could add the standard Z51 shocks, but I don't see a need on the street. The sway-bars are sufficient, imho. ENJOY!
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My advice, get the z51 hp shocks(non mad ride), springs and sways all for the non mag ride z51 cars. The springs on your car are really soft, sways will limit the body roll but the car needs stiffer springs to handle correctly.
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No. You do not have the magnetic shocks on your car. You also cannot add them to a base car.

It is possible to add the NPP exhaust to your car. Do a forum search and you can see how to do it.
Actually, you can't add NPP to a non-NPP car. The wiring in the mode selector is not there, and can't be added. What you CAN do is replace the axle-back mufflers with NPP mufflers, which will provide the louder exhaust at all times, which is what I did. Perfect for me.
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Hello,

Please explain what I would need to do to replace the stock axle-back mufflers with NPP mufflers. I have a base Stingray without the performance exhaust or NPP. I've been looking at Borla exhaust packages, but as I read your post from last month I may only need mufflers and not new pipes ore the entire exhaust. Please explain what you did to your Vette. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by rv3flyr
Actually, you can't add NPP to a non-NPP car. The wiring in the mode selector is not there, and can't be added. What you CAN do is replace the axle-back mufflers with NPP mufflers, which will provide the louder exhaust at all times, which is what I did. Perfect for me.
You can install NPP mufflers. Add a 12 volt power supply and a remote switch to the NPP mufflers.

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Old Aug 26, 2019 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by First Stingray
Hello,

Please explain what I would need to do to replace the stock axle-back mufflers with NPP mufflers. I have a base Stingray without the performance exhaust or NPP. I've been looking at Borla exhaust packages, but as I read your post from last month I may only need mufflers and not new pipes ore the entire exhaust. Please explain what you did to your Vette. Thanks!
It’s a pretty simple project. The most dramatic aspect is the removal of the rear tail assy, and there are a few excellent YouTube videos that detail how that’s done. I bought a pair of used muffler/pipes from a local guy for $350. I did my conversion on a lift, but it can be done easily with ramps or jack stands. After the rear end is removed, it’s a 15 minute job to R & R the stock mufflers and pipes. Replace the rear end and you’re done. I did it in about 4 hours. The good news is that if you still want a different sound, you’re only out $350 and some time.
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Originally Posted by phantom1
You can install NPP mufflers. Add a 12 volt power supply and a remote switch to the NPP mufflers.
Not that simple , the C7 NPP actuators are servos and depend on a PWM signal sent thru the CANBUS to determine their position . Without this signal, just feeding 12 volts to the actuator will cause it to keep trying to open or close because the actuator has no idea of what position it is in , this just leads to a burned up actuator .

Akrapovic makes a control unit ( P-HF886 ) that will send the proper signal to the actuators and allow control thru the driver mode settings just like the factory but you would need the NPP mufflers and actuators and the cost of the control unit is $569.00 . Not sure how it interfaces with the car though ...

I researched this before purchasing my car and decided to just buy one that had the factory NPP

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Originally Posted by Dcasole
Not that simple , the C7 NPP actuators are servos and depend on a PWM signal sent thru the CANBUS to determine their position . Without this signal, just feeding 12 volts to the actuator will cause it to keep trying to open or close because the actuator has no idea of what position it is in , this just leads to a burned up actuator .

Akrapovic makes a control unit ( P-HF886 ) that will send the proper signal to the actuators and allow control thru the driver mode settings just like the factory but you would need the NPP mufflers and actuators and the cost of the control unit is $569.00 . Not sure how it interfaces with the car though ...

I researched this before purchasing my car and decided to just buy one that had the factory NPP

Dave
I didn't know that, thought they were like the C6 actuators which only need 12 volts to activate them. I have a couple of actuators I'll experimnt with. I'll connect 12 volts to one and see what happens. Worse case scenario the op can use NPP mufflers now, and add the actuator control unit later, if he wants to tone it down.

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I didn't know that, thought they were like the C6 actuators which only need 12 volts to activate them. I have a couple of actuators I'll experimnt with. I'll connect 12 volts to one and see what happens. Worse case scenario the op can use NPP mufflers now, and add the actuator control unit later, if he wants to tone it down.
Yeah when the C7 first came out Theta tried to reverse engineer the control signal needed , not sure if he ever actually made any boxes that worked
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-retrofit.html

The PWN signal is similar to the servo signals for radio control models like airplanes and cars , the transmitter sends a signal to the servo control circuit , then a pot sends a positioning signal to the same circuit and when they equal the servo stops moving , in the case of the NPP actuators its a simple open and close but recreating this signal is the challenge , Theta experimented with different resistors and variable pots to get it right

Here is the Akrapovic controller that you can use .....
https://www.akrapovic.com/en/car/pro...37&yearId=5058


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I’ve got one of his boxes, but I never tried it. Last I heard they were supposed to work.
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thank you for the info. not sure what way I'm going to go with this. leaning towards corsa or borla axle back kit.
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