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Old Jun 21, 2020 | 05:04 PM
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I installed a Vararam on my 19 GS. I drove to Bowling Green and all seamed well. Last week my car started sputtering. I opened the hood and discovered one of the hose clamped silicone couplers had popped off. I put it back together then discovered that there was no give to the assembly. None. The motor moves. You can’t have solid on a moving motor. I took the assembly off and discovered a warped POS. The plastic lid was totally warped and seal free and the rivets were hanging on by a thread. I replaced the rivets with nuts and bolts. I have a hump silicone coupler coming that should give it some give. I replaced the hose clamps with T bolt clamps. I spent an hour trying to make it work. Their customer service didn’t return my call. Anyone else have these problems?
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Mine has been on for 2 years and no problem , I have installed a few others for friends , sounds like you did not have something aligned correctly

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I've had my VaraRam installed for a couple of years now with no issues. I did install the foam wedge a little crooked so I wanted to order a replacement wedge. I've tried calling and emailing VaraRam several times without any luck. Left messages on their business line but never heard back from them. They may make a good product but their customer service sucks!
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To add to the discussion. I've had mine on for a couple of years and over 20k miles, 0 issues with build quality, fitment or wear.
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I think the mistake that most people make is tightening the hose clamps to tight which collapses the end of the tube there is no need to crank down on the clamps

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Old Jun 22, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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Having had mine for a couple of years, I can say that I'm not super happy with the rivet nuts pulling out of the filter assembly so easy but I just replaced with nuts and bolts and all is well.
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I think the mistake that most people make is tightening the hose clamps to tight which collapses the end of the tube there is no need to crank down on the clamps

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Everything was good. Drove to Bowling Green and back to San Diego. No problems until there was. The stock hose clamps on one of the joints popped out. I guess the joint wasn’t tight enough. I read that hose clamps aren’t supposed to be used on silicone hose that’s why I’m switching to T Bolt clamps. I still won’t tighten them enough to damage anything. Usually, I buy K&N cai, but I thought I’d try a different brand this time. It installed easily. Everything fit. Then everything warped. It doesn’t fit very well anymore.
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Having had mine for a couple of years, I can say that I'm not super happy with the rivet nuts pulling out of the filter assembly so easy but I just replaced with nuts and bolts and all is well.
i did the same thing. The rivets just weren’t a good choice.
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To add to the discussion. I've had mine on for a couple of years and over 20k miles, 0 issues with build quality, fitment or wear.
Do me a favor please. My car has 20k miles As well. Would you go give your plastic hose a push and a pull to see if there is any give? It’s rubber mounted. There should be some give to allow movement.
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Do me a favor please. My car has 20k miles As well. Would you go give your plastic hose a push and a pull to see if there is any give? It’s rubber mounted. There should be some give to allow movement.
I am not sure how much your motor is moving as I quarter-mile and road track my car often and have never had an issue with it popping off
Pulling a 1.7 60ft time on street tires ... if it was going to come off because the motor was torquing over it would have come off on mine i am sure
You have 4 guys who responded to you state that they had no issues with it coming off
I would just put it back together , using the hoses that came with it , and call it a day .....
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It wasn’t just the coupler letting loose, it was the warped condition of the air box. Yours is warped like mine, except mine is worse and lets in air. I’m talking about where the snap clamp that holds the lid on is. As you're looking at the air box from the pass side, the right top corner isn’t flush. Mine started out fine. Now it’s tweeked. I thought about heating up the plastic lid to try and straighten it out. I’m also considering cutting off a small portion of the plastic tube. No matter how a adjust it, that tube is is against the throttle body and the air box side. Another part of this, is that the Vararam folks have never called me back. I just wanted to know if my warping is common? After reading these reply’s, I guess not. Lol. I’ll try the hump coupler I received yesterday. It gives give. Thanks guys....
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Hmm. I wanna see that car. I was gonna get a vararam.. Was. Cheap rivets? Time to take second look at rotobox or something maybe..
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I think the mistake that most people make is tightening the hose clamps to tight which collapses the end of the tube there is no need to crank down on the clamps

Dave
Dave helped me with my install...all is fine so far...and I run mine hard...love it!
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Hmm. I wanna see that car. I was gonna get a vararam.. Was. Cheap rivets? Time to take second look at rotobox or something maybe..
I'm not saying you shouldn't choose the Varrarm. I'm just asking if anyone has the same experience as me. The rivets are no big deal to fix. Others have had good luck. Again, go in with your eyes open. I do like the design. Oh well.....
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There was the same problem with their intake on the C5. Warping, poor fit leading to dirt being sucked into the engine. They touted their C7Z intake as better than sliced bread years ago. Where is it now? Nothing but hype, no product.

I'm sorry you are having this problem, but given their track record, I'm not surprised.
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There was the same problem with their intake on the C5. Warping, poor fit leading to dirt being sucked into the engine. They touted their C7Z intake as better than sliced bread years ago. Where is it now? Nothing but hype, no product.

I'm sorry you are having this problem, but given their track record, I'm not surprised.
Guys there are plenty of people that have had no problem with a Vararam ... one guy makes a comment and right away its a piece of junk

I will give you the rivet design is not the best ... but there is a reason for it , I would rather the rivet pull out and fall on the ground than have a bolt or nut get sucked into the engine .
As long as you make sure the airfilter is in place and don't force the lock shut the rivets are fine

As far as the hose coming off .. i have installed many of these using the hose that comes with it on both C6 and C7 and I have never had a hose come off

All the other CAI are just an expensive remake of the factory aircleaner system so u might as well save your money if that's the direction u think you are going. Claims of HP gains with them on ZO6 ... has nothing to do with the intake and everything to do with the restrictive stock aircleaner , if u have a blower , by a BMS air cleaner
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Guys there are plenty of people that have had no problem with a Vararam ... one guy makes a comment and right away its a piece of junk

I will give you the rivet design is not the best ... but there is a reason for it , I would rather the rivet pull out and fall on the ground than have a bolt or nut get sucked into the engine .
As long as you make sure the airfilter is in place and don't force the lock shut the rivets are fine

As far as the hose coming off .. i have installed many of these using the hose that comes with it on both C6 and C7 and I have never had a hose come off

All the other CAI are just an expensive remake of the factory aircleaner system so u might as well save your money if that's the direction u think you are going. Claims of HP gains with them on ZO6 ... has nothing to do with the intake and everything to do with the restrictive stock aircleaner , if u have a blower , by a BMS air cleaner
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It's definitely a great performing intake I'm happy with it other than the rivnuts being installed in material that's too thick for them to get a proper crimp.

My car does ok 😊
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Originally Posted by phalse
Hmm. I wanna see that car. I was gonna get a vararam.. Was. Cheap rivets? Time to take second look at rotobox or something maybe..
Don't waste your money....especially if u have a LT1 on any other CAI other than a Vararam. I picked up .2 in the quarter mile with mine . Is it keeping the IATS lower , is it the better designed intake track. Is it the filter.. i don't know but what I can tell you is I have a fist full of A B comparison time tickets that prove its real

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I’ve had mine for 2 years and no problems. Also I got great customer service. He answered my call immediately and took time and called back as well as email. Of course this was when the C7 model first came out.
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Don't waste your money....especially if u have a LT1 on any other CAI other than a Vararam. I picked up .2 in the quarter mile with mine . Is it keeping the IATS lower , is it the better designed intake track. Is it the filter.. i don't know but what I can tell you is I have a fist full of A B comparison time tickets that prove its real

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I figured out my fix for the lack of flex between the assembly and the motor. I mentioned before that I bought a hump silicone coupler. It gave me the flex I was after. I took apart the whole assembly and used a heat gun to get the lid as straight as I could. I used some round stock under the two star bolts in the lid. The two small bolts with washers would easily crack the thin plastic they tighten against without any support underneath. By the way, the nuts and bolts I replaced the rivets with? They’re outside the air filter. A bolt can’t pass through. A nut in the throttle body is not a good thing. That’s it for me. My problem was solved with a little rework. One thing more, I sanded flat the raised block letters that say “Vararam” and painted the letters in red. I like it. It’s cool. Thanks all.
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