C7 Tech/Performance Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Another Track Day, Another AFM Exhaust Code

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 21, 2020 | 06:58 PM
  #1  
BostonVette's Avatar
BostonVette
Thread Starter
Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 576
Likes: 48
From: Woburn MA
Default Another Track Day, Another AFM Exhaust Code

Since I melted both the AFM Exhaust Valves last month at Palmer, I had them replaced under warranty (19 GS w/Auto).

Yesterday temps were 92* high and so was humidity at Thompson.
Exhaust valves behaved for what I thought was the entire day.
However as I was leaving the track I got a MIL, this time there was no mechanical noise like last time.

Checked the codes and got "P12F2" (Cylinder Deactivation Exhaust Flow Valve Actuator Performance (Bank 1))...WTF
I have no idea what that means of if it is an indicator to a pending failure.
I'm hoping someone here knows what its about?

I had considered just tuning out the valves and being done with it since I run a Range AFM Eliminator full time, but I got spooked after several people told me that if there is any powertrain warranty work needed GM gets a copy of the PCM code to insure there is no monkeying around.

These valves make me uncomfortable taking the car to the track, it's not worth the aggravation.
Can I remove these actuators from the Valve and tie them off or space them away from the valve away from the heat.
I have a quickjack, is it something I can do in the garage?

Any input is appreciated


Last edited by BostonVette; Jul 21, 2020 at 06:59 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2020 | 03:24 AM
  #2  
X25's Avatar
X25
Sr.Random input generator
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 7,803
Likes: 2,232
From: Sammamish, WA
Default

How-To: Eliminate AFM actuator melting issue for aggressive/track driving: link. After getting them replaced once more time under warranty, you can do this mod. I've run my car almost exclusively at the track, and never had any issue with this mod.

Last edited by X25; Jul 23, 2020 at 03:25 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2020 | 12:41 AM
  #3  
Oh4GTO's Avatar
Oh4GTO
Drifting
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,388
Likes: 233
From: Palmer Township PA
Default

I purchased a Z06 exhaust for my GS and simply zip tied the actuators out of the way. A QuickJack will get your car high enough to swap out the exhaust. You can also add heat shield on the piping at this point as well. I did all this and no codes and trans temp dropped another 10 degrees or so. Doesnt go above 200.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2020 | 10:45 AM
  #4  
ErnieN85's Avatar
ErnieN85
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,726
Likes: 368
From: Montoursville Pa
Default

Originally Posted by BostonVette
Since I melted both the AFM Exhaust Valves last month at Palmer, I had them replaced under warranty (19 GS w/Auto).

Yesterday temps were 92* high and so was humidity at Thompson.
Exhaust valves behaved for what I thought was the entire day.
However as I was leaving the track I got a MIL, this time there was no mechanical noise like last time.

Checked the codes and got "P12F2" (Cylinder Deactivation Exhaust Flow Valve Actuator Performance (Bank 1))...WTF
I have no idea what that means of if it is an indicator to a pending failure.
I'm hoping someone here knows what its about?

I had considered just tuning out the valves and being done with it since I run a Range AFM Eliminator full time, but I got spooked after several people told me that if there is any powertrain warranty work needed GM gets a copy of the PCM code to insure there is no monkeying around.

These valves make me uncomfortable taking the car to the track, it's not worth the aggravation.
Can I remove these actuators from the Valve and tie them off or space them away from the valve away from the heat.
I have a quickjack, is it something I can do in the garage?

Any input is appreciated
read this thread for how to tune this out, I does work although you will note that I had to change some of the settings to insure no MIL on my car (almost at the last of the thread
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c7-tech-performance/4082021-how-to-disable-afm-exhaust-valve-actuators-with-hp-tuners.html

Last edited by ErnieN85; Jul 28, 2020 at 10:46 AM. Reason: spelling
Reply
Old Aug 8, 2020 | 04:52 PM
  #5  
dmagee's Avatar
dmagee
Heel & Toe
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 21
Likes: 3
Default Exhaust Actuator in 17 GS replaced 4X and failed again

I have a 17GS and also run at Thompson. I have replaced the exhaust actuator 4X and the most recent was with a "redesigned" part. The CEL just went on with code P12FO, and the valve is rattling when the car goes to 4 cylinders, so it is back to go. Another bad design on the GS! If you find a good place to get the work done please let me know. Dale Magee
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2020 | 12:27 PM
  #6  
SR Driver's Avatar
SR Driver
5th Gear
 
Joined: Nov 2020
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
From: Scottsdale AZ
Default

I'm newly registered into this forum and I greatly appreciate the info I'd already found here as a guest regarding AFM exhaust valve actuator failures! But I still have a couple questions (and background comments to offer before anyone replies). Background: Please bear in mind that (1) I'm a bit too old and too new to this CF to understand all the acronyms and electronic technology, (2) I do not want to risk voiding the power train warranty, (3) In 1985 I quit instructing in HPDEs and competing in SCCA, but now 20+ aggressive HPDE track days per year are sufficiently satisfying. Therefore my 3-in-1 daily driver / track car / SUV is a 2019 Grand Sport coupe (with A8 trans due to traffic).
Questions: (1) After the AFM actuators have "failed" (and upon cruising away from the track in 'D'/ V4) it sounds like they are able to partially close the valves but then they slam open a couple times per second, producing loud metallic clatter. Is that always the symptom, (my low-tech diagnostic)?
(2) If that clattering abuse of the butterfly valves is promptly prevented by driving in 'M', why would dealers want to replace the complete muffler assys instead of just the $150ea actuators #84560761? [Dealer said- "Because the pipes have now been wrapped with insulation there is no warranty coverage for this nearly $4,000 R&R"].
(3) Does anybody see significant problems with the following solution plan which hopefully doesn't put the power train warranty at risk? I would have a race prep shop remove the failed actuators, attach AWE's "Simulator" plates (their #1310-11030) to new out-of-the-box actuators (GM#84560761), and tie them up away from the exhaust pipes. Then I'll ask a Chevy dealer to make the car 'learn' the AWE Simulator controlled strokes of the new actuators, and clear the fault codes CEL etc.
It's great to be tracking again after 6 months of Covid cancellations! At least it postponed the accumulation of AFM frustration! Stay well.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2020 | 08:02 PM
  #7  
ErnieN85's Avatar
ErnieN85
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,726
Likes: 368
From: Montoursville Pa
Default

Yes that will work to perfection.
Reply
Old Nov 10, 2020 | 09:14 AM
  #8  
olblue75's Avatar
olblue75
Drifting
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,503
Likes: 198
From: Clarksville TN
Default

But what about the warranty side of it??
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Nov 10, 2020 | 12:51 PM
  #9  
BostonVette's Avatar
BostonVette
Thread Starter
Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 576
Likes: 48
From: Woburn MA
Default My solution

I went with the AWE Simulators and spacers

You may be able to put the actuators in to "Learn" them and then mount them remotely, however...
If you have a dead battery or disconnect it for any reason, you have to go back in and relearn them - big hassle
The AWEs will provide the stops allowing the actuators to relearn with no intervention


I used the AWE simulators AND spaced them out 1/2" with spacers and screws from McMaster Carr. I wasn't comfortable tie wrapping the actuators to something
The actuator doesn't drive the valve any more, the valve is sprung open, there is no direct contact with the hot Valve stem and the added air gap helps prevent the housing from hitting the melting point.
I have a Range so I have no need to close the valves

One thing I noticed...the new actuators have longer mounting bosses, perhaps GM did this to increase the air gap because of the problem.
When you install the AWEs they may not line up well with the actuator drive plate, you'll have to deform the tabs on the AWE so they engage without binding.

I'm pretty confident that this 3rd time will be the end of it

Last edited by BostonVette; Nov 10, 2020 at 12:56 PM.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Another Track Day, Another AFM Exhaust Code





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:53 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE