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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 12:42 AM
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You can't be serious. If you punch the go pedal, the CAGS will NEVER engage.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by eprest1983
You can't be serious. If you punch the go pedal, the CAGS will NEVER engage.

Please let us know the area where traffic and/or road conditions NEVER prevent you from "punching the go pedal" ANY/EVERY time you feel the urge and CAGS NEVER engages. That's an area I (and I suspect many others) would enjoy.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 02:32 AM
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With all due respect, @Bill Dearborn, I find it amazing how many people think everyone's experiences and preferences should mirror their own. For some of us, "rarely" is too often. If I wanted my car to choose gears for me, I'd have an A8.


I've owned my car for a little over 2 years, logging about 5400 miles, and have lost count of how many times the skip shift notice has come up because of the exact circumstance @CraigStu described...
And that experience is totally avoidable by training yourself to stay in low gear or shift to second sooner. It is a narrow speed range where CAGS activates. Don't shift gears in that speed range and you will never experience CAGS. Simple and easy to do. How many times does it happen to daily drivers that drive in heavy traffic? Maybe once in a while but when it happens they remember to avoid the condition for a few months. It is rare. Better to spend the money paid for a CAGS eliminator on gas which can provide more fun. With the C6 it was possible to use a burnt out diode and fool the system into thinking it was working properly but it wasn't worth the effort to order a diode and then burn it out. Even if you are a billionaire there is such a thing as not wasting money on things that don't have to be done.

My first car was a 55 Chevy two door sedan with a manual transmission. Somewhere along the way, a Previous Owner broke the gas pedal from its mount on the floor. The flat wide pedal was broken off but the actuator arm the pedal pressed against was still sticking out from the firewall. It was easy to put a foot on that little arm (about the width of a push rod) so I drove that car for 3 years with no issues. It was impossible to use it if you had flip-flops on or were barefoot but who cared. I found many people couldn't handle driving the car because they had it in their head they couldn't drive a car without a gas pedal.

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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
And that experience is totally avoidable by training yourself to stay in low gear or shift to second sooner.
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I buy stick shifts because I want to be able to choose the gear I want when I want under any circumstances. Nobody should have to train themselves to avoid a ridiculous electronic nanny that only GM puts in their manual transmission cars. No disrespect, but i find it weird how you're defending a pointless feature to driving enthusiasts.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 08:56 AM
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CAGs is forced on GM to make EPA numbers. I choose to select the gear I want, when I want it and not be controlled by a government doodad. If I want the transmission to select gears for me, I'd own an Automatic. If I want control over what gear, throttle pressure, speed or whatever, I get the manual and kill CAGs by any means possible.


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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by NortonCO

Please let us know the area where traffic and/or road conditions NEVER prevent you from "punching the go pedal" ANY/EVERY time you feel the urge and CAGS NEVER engages. That's an area I (and I suspect many others) would enjoy.
As Bill mentioned, it only engages under certain conditions which are mostly related to when the car is under very light load. Just give it a little gas and you will never have to deal with it. I don't mean you have to drive it like you stole it 😄.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 02:36 PM
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Unfortunately rush hour in a good sized city does not allow for "give it a little gas" without rear ending someone.

Yes, CAGS is easy to avoid with light traffic in a rural setting. It is not so simple if you drive in a city.

Buy or make a CAGS defeat and all is good.
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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 11:24 AM
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CAGS eliminator is so easy to install and is the best $15 I have spent on this car. The 1-4 message still shows on occasion, no big deal.
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Originally Posted by Elk
Unfortunately rush hour in a good sized city does not allow for "give it a little gas" without rear ending someone.

Yes, CAGS is easy to avoid with light traffic in a rural setting. It is not so simple if you drive in a city.

Buy or make a CAGS defeat and all is good.
Then don't give it a little gas. Just shift to second before 14 mph or after 20. There has never been a Corvette made that can't handle 2nd gear at 10 mph. NADA, not a single one. Even the lumpy idle L88 big-block engines could handle it.

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Old Feb 1, 2022 | 03:13 PM
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I've been listening to this debate for 5 years now. If you don't hit CAGS, great. If you want to delete it, great. I'm in the latter camp. I do live in a high traffic area. Oh, and I like black wheels too . . .
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Old Feb 2, 2022 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
Then don't give it a little gas. Just shift to second before 14 mph or after 20. There has never been a Corvette made that can't handle 2nd gear at 10 mph. NADA, not a single one. Even the lumpy idle L88 big-block engines could handle it.
Yes, if one wants to focus on when the car will let you shift, this is an option. I would rather focus on traffic and driving the car than on keeping the skip-shift "feature" happy.

A CAGS defeat is cheap, easy to install, works flawlessly, and lets you pay attention to traffic and driving the car as you would prefer - not as the car forces you to do.

Of course if one is happy with CAGS there is no reason to bother eliminating it.
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Old Feb 3, 2022 | 04:15 PM
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All you have to do is pull shifter out of first gear, let the spring take it to center in neutral, shift to second gear.
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Old Feb 3, 2022 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by redman76
I've been listening to this debate for 5 years now. If you don't hit CAGS, great. If you want to delete it, great. I'm in the latter camp. I do live in a high traffic area. Oh, and I like black wheels too . . .
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Old Feb 3, 2022 | 09:43 PM
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Just drive the thing as if it were a,,, sports car, and you'll never encounter skip-shift. ENJOY!
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 01:03 PM
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^^^
Easy when there is no traffic. A challenge in congested stop and go city driving.
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 04:11 PM
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CAGs defeat: One of the easiest, cheapest, and most useful mod for M7 cars....but why so much controversy???
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ersatz928
CAGs defeat: One of the easiest, cheapest, and most useful mod for M7 cars....but why so much controversy???
I don't understand it either.

I think some people like leaving things completely stock. Even if that means putting up with an annoying "feature" that can be easily defeated with $15 and 10 minutes.
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 05:05 PM
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Wow. Guess I poked the CAGS dog with a stick! At any rate, I just put in my bypass harness thing as I was servicing the trans and diffy. For me, it's worth it. I got a stick to shift myself, and I don't like MPG nannies spoiling my party. To try and drive around it for me would be like admitting defeat - like I can't or don't know how or when to shift my own gearbox. For those who live in an environment whereby they can drive around this thing all I can say is I wish I was your neighbor! But in the end, to each their own. I'm just grateful to finally have a Corvette to enjoy and now can do so a bit more on my own terms!
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 07:54 PM
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A CAGS defeat is reversible in about 10 minutes if one ever feels it necessary to place the car back into stock condition.

I do not get the issue. The choice is whether to drive the car any way you would like, or have the car dictate. What is the appeal of choice number 2?
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Old Feb 15, 2022 | 01:47 PM
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Double clutch and go 1-3 like the rest of us lol
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