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Old Apr 3, 2022 | 08:13 PM
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2017 GS Z07. I get the brake pad error warning message. Go to the dealer with the service TSB, and the service bulletin covers the CCB package with FE6 suspension. I have the Z07 package, with the FE7 stiffer suspension. So I'm not covered.
Then I'm thinking, doesn't every CCB package have the FE7 stiffer suspension, and not the FE6 ??? Either way they could not find anything wrong with my car, and the error message is erroneous with 5000 miles on the car.

Anyone have this problem, and resolved it? In the TSB above.
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 09:33 AM
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I think I would push back on this with the dealer or get another dealers opinion. What does the suspension have to do with a brake TSB? Sounds like they just saw the issue initially in a certain configuration and haven’t changed it.

What does the TSB address exactly?
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 09:36 AM
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You could order CCB as a standalone option. Z07 was just a package that also included CCB.
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 10:17 AM
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Brakes Worn is a common CCB issue. If it keeps up, just replace the sensor.
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 10:27 AM
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Brakes Worn is a common CCB issue. If it keeps up, just replace the sensor.
Is it usually the fronts, or the rears ?
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 06:30 PM
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MC-10158904-9999.pdf (nhtsa.gov)

2017 GS Z07. I get the brake pad error warning message. Go to the dealer with the service TSB, and the service bulletin covers the CCB package with FE6 suspension. I have the Z07 package, with the FE7 stiffer suspension. So I'm not covered.
Then I'm thinking, doesn't every CCB package have the FE7 stiffer suspension, and not the FE6 ??? Either way they could not find anything wrong with my car, and the error message is erroneous with 5000 miles on the car.

Anyone have this problem, and resolved it? In the TSB above.
It clearly states in the TSB that it doesn't apply to your car. There were some 2016 Z06s that received free upgrades to the CCM brake package due to supply issues. This eventually became an option and people were able to order their FE6 cars with that RPO.

The TSB addresses the situation where the brake wear sensor programming isn't in the 2016 Z06 FE6 EBCM programming since the cars were not supposed to need it due to only coming with iron rotors.

Your problem is more than likely a loose/corroded connector where the sensor attaches to the car harness. It could also be a sensor that is prematurely worn due to being incorrectly assembled on the inside brake pad.

Bad sensors can't be isolated without checking each at each wheel for a worn sensor or poor connection. It is like trying to find a blown bulb in a serial circuit set of Christmas Tree lights.

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Old Apr 5, 2022 | 08:24 AM
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If it happens again, I'll pull apart the sensors. Last time it happened was after a track day on the drive home. Only 5000 miles on the car, didn't expect this.
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I changed the front drivers side sensor. Still had the error message.
Changed the passenger side sensor. Error message gone for 500 miles. So I think I'm good.

I went with aftermarket sensors, because the OEM sensors obviously suck. Just wish I had the tool to determine what sensor was bad before playing guessing games.
FWIW: Looking at the sensor ... you cannot determine it failed. They are visibly fine.
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I changed the front drivers side sensor. Still had the error message.
Changed the passenger side sensor. Error message gone for 500 miles. So I think I'm good.

I went with aftermarket sensors, because the OEM sensors obviously suck. Just wish I had the tool to determine what sensor was bad before playing guessing games.
FWIW: Looking at the sensor ... you cannot determine it failed. They are visibly fine.
The OEM sensors are not a low quality product. The issue with the sensors is either the connection at the cradle due to dirt and corrosion on the connector pins, a broken wire inside the insulation or incorrect placement of the sensor on the brake pad causing premature wear of the sensor. Broken wires inside the sensor harness and corrosion issues are usually due to environmental conditions Vs a problem with the sensor itself.

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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
The OEM sensors are not a low quality product. The issue with the sensors is either the connection at the cradle due to dirt and corrosion on the connector pins, a broken wire inside the insulation or incorrect placement of the sensor on the brake pad causing premature wear of the sensor. Broken wires inside the sensor harness and corrosion issues are usually due to environmental conditions Vs a problem with the sensor itself. Bill
4000 miles, 3 track days, and a bad sensor !! Should not have failed. Definitely not corrosion with a summer only low mileage car. No visible damage. Just junk. Yes, I know it's Brembo, but this should not have happened.
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Usually the fronts, dealer spent more time lifting car than replacing sensor.. just get to a Corvette guy.. it sometimes is the wire pulling away, later factory started putting a little zip tie to help stop that from happening.. Good Luck

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Originally Posted by the blur
MC-10158904-9999.pdf (nhtsa.gov)

2017 GS Z07. I get the brake pad error warning message. Go to the dealer with the service TSB, and the service bulletin covers the CCB package with FE6 suspension. I have the Z07 package, with the FE7 stiffer suspension. So I'm not covered.
Then I'm thinking, doesn't every CCB package have the FE7 stiffer suspension, and not the FE6 ??? Either way they could not find anything wrong with my car, and the error message is erroneous with 5000 miles on the car.

Anyone have this problem, and resolved it? In the TSB above.

I'm having this issue now on my 17 Z07.. I just printed the bulletin but unfortunately the car is out of warranty. I have a GM extended so that hopefully will cover the reprogramming.
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Usually the fronts, dealer spent more time lifting car than replacing sensor.. just get to a Corvette guy.. it sometimes is the wire pulling away, later factory started putting a little zip tie to help stop that from happening..
I had the zip ties. Which I reinstalled with the new sensors.

To NCC, just buy 2 front after market sensors from Rock Auto. Because it's a guessing game which front it is.
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Just to make a point, there is more to parts failure than mileage, or lack there of. For example, corrosion, faulty install, errant interference, etc. I'm not saying any of these are relevant in this particular case, but I seem many saying, "My X-year old vehicle has only X-miles on it, so..." There is simply more involved in many if not most instances. All the best, in any event.
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