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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 09:22 PM
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i am considering installing one of these

EZ (EZ-107) Silver 12mm-1.75 Thread Size Oil Drain Valve


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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 10:11 PM
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No experience with this but I wouldn't risk my engine with this valve.
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 10:27 PM
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i am considering installing one of these

EZ (EZ-107) Silver 12mm-1.75 Thread Size Oil Drain Valve


would love to hear good and bad comments

thanks
I ran one for a while on my Tacoma. I was unhappy with it, and returned to a standard drain plug, for two reasons. First, these valves stick out/down too far, risking damage, especially in vehicles with minimal ground clearance. Second, it slows drainage when changing the oil. I found this annoying on a truck that holds only ~5.5qts, so I'm confident drain time for almost 10qts in my Z06 would be totally unacceptable. Obviously, YMMV.
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Old Nov 17, 2022 | 11:14 PM
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I have used Fumoto on my truck which is higher, of course. That said, there are different options. See THESE and see what fits you. Will it drain slower? Probably. That said, it allows you to do one simple thing. Bring it anywhere and not worry about He Man wrenching it too tight or even you cross threading it. It allows you to drain it into the cans, one at a time.
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 06:35 AM
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hmm i get the premise of this, but just doesnt seem like a good thing to have on my car, to me nothing wrong with the plugs and less to worry about in and around that area for multiple reasons.
the furthest i messed with something like this was i added a drain plug to my 91 firebird automatic transmission pan, because it didnt come with one and you had to drop the pan and that got messy.
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 09:27 AM
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Would not chance it.

Oil change / tire rotation monkeys are the lowest tech, and I use that word loosely,

They would still try to unscrew it and then cross thread it back in. Sorry, no warranty, not a stock part.

These guys are known to be able to destroy a steel anvil with a rubber mallet.

Remember, "the lowest "techs" can cause the most damage". Quote from a shop supervisor from a major Ford dealership that had over 40 years experience and I've known for over 30 years.

He would relate a new horror story to me every few weeks.

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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 09:53 AM
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Would not chance it.

Oil change / tire rotation monkeys are the lowest tech, and I use that word loosely,

They would still try to unscrew it and then cross thread it back in. Sorry, no warranty, not a stock part.

These guys are known to be able to destroy a steel anvil with a rubber mallet.

Remember, "the lowest "techs" can cause the most damage". Quote from a shop supervisor from a major Ford dealership that had over 40 years experience and I've known for over 30 years.

He would relate a new horror story to me every few weeks.
Glad his high level techs didn't screw up anything. Sorry, I'm sure they did. Nobody's perfect. That said, I have not had a Wal-Mart tech screw up mine in almost 20 winter oil changes.
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Old Nov 18, 2022 | 03:04 PM
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I've never seen these stand the test of time. They all eventually leak.

Just remove and reinstall the drain bolt. What are you really saving yourself here?
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Originally Posted by squirrelchew
I've never seen these stand the test of time. They all eventually leak.

Just remove and reinstall the drain bolt. What are you really saving yourself here?
10 plus years with no leaking. No gasket changes.

Nothing. You are having the ability to control the flow of oil. I can drain it into 20 coffee cups if I want. Might be handy since 0W-40 doesn't come in more than a quart.
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10 plus years with no leaking. No gasket changes.
Literally the first I've heard this.

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You are having the ability to control the flow of oil. I can drain it into 20 coffee cups if I want. Might be handy since 0W-40 doesn't come in more than a quart.
In what situation are you needing something between "keep the oil in the engine" and "remove the oil from the engine right now" ?
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Literally the first I've heard this.

In what situation are you needing something between "keep the oil in the engine" and "remove the oil from the engine right now" ?
It came off my 7.3 diesel once. That was when I replaced the oil pan which had rusted out. Set it and forget it if it is a quality product.

I drain the oil and was able to start the flow when the oil can was empty and in the right position. Benefit is that you can get the oil can in position, start the flow and when it is full, stop the flow, replace with an empty can and start it again. No drain pan and trying to pour it carefully into the empty cans.
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the reasons i am considering it are:
i am retired and have the time to change the oil myself, knowing that "lowest techs" wont damage anything and saving $$$ from my fixed income.

however,
i don't bend well anymore,
so not having to take rachet and socket with me when i crawl under the car is appealing
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Originally Posted by BluRace
the reasons i am considering it are:
i am retired and have the time to change the oil myself, knowing that "lowest techs" wont damage anything and saving $$$ from my fixed income.

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i don't bend well anymore,
so not having to take rachet and socket with me when i crawl under the car is appealing
Time is one thing. Just because you have the time doesn't mean you should spend the time if you don't bend well. The odds that the "lowest techs" damage something is pretty slim if you think about it. Think about how many oil changes are done with respect to the number of sensationalized problems. Also, there is no guarantee that just because you do it there will be no issues. Safe to say, if you play with cars, sooner or later you will have that 2 minute job that becomes a nightmare because you did something wrong. I personally would be hesitant to advice someone who "don't bend well anymore" to get under that car if you don't have to. Maybe watch the guy doing the job to make sure?
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No way, but to each his/her own. These do not drain straight out, and but one failure and... Beside, how much time and trouble is it to remove a plug and reinstall... especially when one can use a magnetic one.
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Old Dec 5, 2022 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by aklim
10 plus years with no leaking. No gasket changes.

Nothing. You are having the ability to control the flow of oil. I can drain it into 20 coffee cups if I want. Might be handy since 0W-40 doesn't come in more than a quart.
Same experience here, I've been using these on all my (non corvette) vehicles for over 10 years. I install using a loctite made for oiled threads.

When my GS arrives I'll try to measure, but I'm not sure that a fumoto will clear well with how low the plugs sit.
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I added a Fumoto oil drain valve to my C5 Camaro (LS3 engine) as the oil rapidly pours out of the oil drain plug creating a real splash zone. The flow control was key to my purchase. The oil plug is located on the side on the oil pan on my LS3 so it doesn't cause a ground clearance issue. No issues with leaks and I change my own oil so I'm not worried about unqualified techs.
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I change my own oil so I'm not worried about unqualified techs.
Depending on the circumstances, I do change my own oil but I am not worried either. Yes, there are a bunch of horror stories but as I think about it, every day, thousands of oil changes are done. Most of them have gone well, I'll bet. Odds are still in my favor. I mean, unqualified tech? What does it take to be qualified for that procedure? How qualified was I when I did my first change? I wasn't an ASE Certified mechanic or even one in school. \
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Depending on the circumstances, I do change my own oil but I am not worried either. Yes, there are a bunch of horror stories but as I think about it, every day, thousands of oil changes are done. Most of them have gone well, I'll bet. Odds are still in my favor. I mean, unqualified tech? What does it take to be qualified for that procedure? How qualified was I when I did my first change? I wasn't an ASE Certified mechanic or even one in school. \
For me the valve is for convenience more than as a solution to a problem from an oil change gone awry.
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I really do not find it all that time consuming or difficult to just remove the factory drain plug.
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Originally Posted by Vetteman Jack
I really do not find it all that time consuming or difficult to just remove the factory drain plug.
Not knowing the OP's concerns, the valve does have a desirable feature of a slower controlled drain rate vs the splatter 'n splash of a plug.and the hassle of fishing the plug out of a bucket if it slips out of your hand.
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