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Old Jun 5, 2023 | 04:11 PM
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Assuming I have a cam in my car and a blower that is still making power to 7200...what's stopping from having it tuned to shift at 7500, 8000, 8200 rpms?

What's the limiting factor?
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assuming you have headroom for flow, strength of metal is going to be your limiting factor.

bearings, con rods, wristpins, the piston itself.. those take an exponentially harder beating as you raise RPMs.
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Back in the old days, it was valve float.
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Originally Posted by squirrelchew
assuming you have headroom for flow, strength of metal is going to be your limiting factor.

bearings, con rods, wristpins, the piston itself.. those take an exponentially harder beating as you raise RPMs.
I see. I'm going full forged on the bottom end and was curious. I'd love to raise the redline a bit to 7500 at least.
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Pushrod engines run into issues above around 7500 rpm assuming high quality parts are used. Valve springs and rocker arms become almost maintenance items.

Frankly, you can set the redline where ever you want and your engine will determine if that is too high. If you are truly running top quality connecting rods, pistons and valve train components, 7500 redline seems reasonable.
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Frankly, you can set the redline where ever you want and your engine will determine if that is too high
Hey, just like boost!
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You need the valve train to be able to handle 7200 RPM's. And if you do, then you need the bottom end built to handle the stress of 7200 RPMs. If this is a street car and you don't want to do a lot of maintenance then I wouldn't push it past 7000-7200. Once you go beyond this and into race car territory, things wear out much quicker.
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Originally Posted by Factoid
Pushrod engines run into issues above around 7500 rpm assuming high quality parts are used. Valve springs and rocker arms become almost maintenance items.

Frankly, you can set the redline where ever you want and your engine will determine if that is too high. If you are truly running top quality connecting rods, pistons and valve train components, 7500 redline seems reasonable.
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You need the valve train to be able to handle 7200 RPM's. And if you do, then you need the bottom end built to handle the stress of 7200 RPMs. If this is a street car and you don't want to do a lot of maintenance then I wouldn't push it past 7000-7200. Once you go beyond this and into race car territory, things wear out much quicker.
Makes sense. The car has been set to around 7100-7200 for awhile now. I'm forging the bottom end and thought why not raise it higher, but I do drive the car often and would rather not have to spend so much time on maintenance so I'll probably keep it where it's at.
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