Can HPTuner do this?
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Drifting
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From: Blacksburg Va
Can HPTuner do this?
On my 19 Stingray I'd like to;
- change the temps at which the radiator fan come on and also when it goes to full speed
- raise idle speed by maybe 50-75 rpm
My concerns;
- I notice that HPTuners lists the 19 Stingray as a separate vehicle from other C7s but I don't know if that means a reduced list of capabilities or not. (1.5 yrs ago I bought an OBDLink wanting to be able to monitor oil pressure more accurately. I had talked to a guy w/ a C6 who had been able to do that but I couldn't make it happen. Called OBDLink and found their unit could not do that on a C7. OK I wasted $150)
- I don't quite understand the "Credits" thing. Looking through their forum I came across several people who had a credit or 2 and needed to buy another to be able to get done what they wanted to.
- $450 including one credit (additional credits are $50 each) would be more than I want to write off. The couple of references to HPTuner and rad fan temps were all from 14-17 C7s. Do any of you have experience w/ HPTuner on a 19 Stingray? Can it do what I want it to?
- change the temps at which the radiator fan come on and also when it goes to full speed
- raise idle speed by maybe 50-75 rpm
My concerns;
- I notice that HPTuners lists the 19 Stingray as a separate vehicle from other C7s but I don't know if that means a reduced list of capabilities or not. (1.5 yrs ago I bought an OBDLink wanting to be able to monitor oil pressure more accurately. I had talked to a guy w/ a C6 who had been able to do that but I couldn't make it happen. Called OBDLink and found their unit could not do that on a C7. OK I wasted $150)
- I don't quite understand the "Credits" thing. Looking through their forum I came across several people who had a credit or 2 and needed to buy another to be able to get done what they wanted to.
- $450 including one credit (additional credits are $50 each) would be more than I want to write off. The couple of references to HPTuner and rad fan temps were all from 14-17 C7s. Do any of you have experience w/ HPTuner on a 19 Stingray? Can it do what I want it to?
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On my 19 Stingray I'd like to;
- change the temps at which the radiator fan come on and also when it goes to full speed
- raise idle speed by maybe 50-75 rpm
My concerns;
- I notice that HPTuners lists the 19 Stingray as a separate vehicle from other C7s but I don't know if that means a reduced list of capabilities or not. (1.5 yrs ago I bought an OBDLink wanting to be able to monitor oil pressure more accurately. I had talked to a guy w/ a C6 who had been able to do that but I couldn't make it happen. Called OBDLink and found their unit could not do that on a C7. OK I wasted $150)
- I don't quite understand the "Credits" thing. Looking through their forum I came across several people who had a credit or 2 and needed to buy another to be able to get done what they wanted to.
- $450 including one credit (additional credits are $50 each) would be more than I want to write off. The couple of references to HPTuner and rad fan temps were all from 14-17 C7s. Do any of you have experience w/ HPTuner on a 19 Stingray? Can it do what I want it to?
- change the temps at which the radiator fan come on and also when it goes to full speed
- raise idle speed by maybe 50-75 rpm
My concerns;
- I notice that HPTuners lists the 19 Stingray as a separate vehicle from other C7s but I don't know if that means a reduced list of capabilities or not. (1.5 yrs ago I bought an OBDLink wanting to be able to monitor oil pressure more accurately. I had talked to a guy w/ a C6 who had been able to do that but I couldn't make it happen. Called OBDLink and found their unit could not do that on a C7. OK I wasted $150)
- I don't quite understand the "Credits" thing. Looking through their forum I came across several people who had a credit or 2 and needed to buy another to be able to get done what they wanted to.
- $450 including one credit (additional credits are $50 each) would be more than I want to write off. The couple of references to HPTuner and rad fan temps were all from 14-17 C7s. Do any of you have experience w/ HPTuner on a 19 Stingray? Can it do what I want it to?
The ZR1 is separate from the others.
As I recall, the C7 is 4 credits for all but the ZR1 plus 2 more credits for the BCM if you have NPP and want to mess with the exhaust. Credits are $50 each, so $200 plus the cost of the hardware.
You can download the software for free….download the Beta version….and play around. I can send you an OE 2019 tune, just PM me. Be sure you have it in Advanced mode so you see everything.
Do note…..These changes aren’t like the old days where you changed a cell or two in one table. There are multiple tables you need to edit.
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2019 C7 or C7z will need 4 credits to license the ECU, credits are 50 each. If you have a auto and want to tune the TCU it is another 4 credits plus the TCU has to be unlocked which is $250, so basically $450 to be able to tune the TCU. If you want to make changes to how the dual mode mufflers operate (NPP) they are controlled by the CCM (chassis control module) and that is 1 credit to license to make changes.
You will need to purchase a MPVI3, I am not sure not if you get any credits for buying the MPVI3. If not you will need to purchase the appropriate credits as well base on what you want to make changes to. Based on what you said OP you will just need the 4 credits ($200) for the ECU.
You will need to purchase a MPVI3, I am not sure not if you get any credits for buying the MPVI3. If not you will need to purchase the appropriate credits as well base on what you want to make changes to. Based on what you said OP you will just need the 4 credits ($200) for the ECU.
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thing is the credits are linked to the obd unit not the car vin #. so if down the road you go to a shop and pay them to tune your car they get the credits you pay for them and you lose them if you chose to go to another tuner or sell the car. the obd is very useful and tuning is done by many shops. buy the unit and the credits and keep control of all the tunes
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thing is the credits are linked to the obd unit not the car vin #. so if down the road you go to a shop and pay them to tune your car they get the credits you pay for them and you lose them if you chose to go to another tuner or sell the car. the obd is very useful and tuning is done by many shops. buy the unit and the credits and keep control of all the tunes
Huh????
This is not at all how the credits on HPT work at all. As said (for a 2019 model C7 with a A8) the ECU requires 4 credits, the TCU requires 4 credits and the CCM requires 1 credit. Credits are universal and can be used across many vehicles lines (Ford, Dodge and so on). Once you buy credits you have to sync them to the MPVI1/2/3 depending on which MPVI you have. Once you sync the credits to the MPVI then you open the HPT Editor and then when you read or try to write to the appropriate module you are asked to license the VIN. Those credits are tied to each individual MPVI and tied to the VIN for that module.
So if the OP buys a MPVI and the appropriate credits and license the vehicles to his MPVI those credits are forever tied to that VIN on that MPVI module. If he then decides to have a shop do work that needs tuning changes and the shop doesnt use his MPVI and the shop uses their MPVI they will need to buy the correct amount of credits and then license their MPVI to his tune, which means yes the OP will have to pay the shop for not only their tuning work but also for those credits.
At this piont if the OP uses a shop to make the changes he wants I am sure the shop will charge him $1 for $1 for the tuning credits needed as well as their labor charge for their time to make the needed changes. Probably wont cost as much as a ew MPVI and the needed credits, but it will cost something for sure.
Safety Car
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From: nashville TN
Huh????
This is not at all how the credits on HPT work at all. As said (for a 2019 model C7 with a A8) the ECU requires 4 credits, the TCU requires 4 credits and the CCM requires 1 credit. Credits are universal and can be used across many vehicles lines (Ford, Dodge and so on). Once you buy credits you have to sync them to the MPVI1/2/3 depending on which MPVI you have. Once you sync the credits to the MPVI then you open the HPT Editor and then when you read or try to write to the appropriate module you are asked to license the VIN. Those credits are tied to each individual MPVI and tied to the VIN for that module.
So if the OP buys a MPVI and the appropriate credits and license the vehicles to his MPVI those credits are forever tied to that VIN on that MPVI module. If he then decides to have a shop do work that needs tuning changes and the shop doesnt use his MPVI and the shop uses their MPVI they will need to buy the correct amount of credits and then license their MPVI to his tune, which means yes the OP will have to pay the shop for not only their tuning work but also for those credits.
At this piont if the OP uses a shop to make the changes he wants I am sure the shop will charge him $1 for $1 for the tuning credits needed as well as their labor charge for their time to make the needed changes. Probably wont cost as much as a ew MPVI and the needed credits, but it will cost something for sure.
This is not at all how the credits on HPT work at all. As said (for a 2019 model C7 with a A8) the ECU requires 4 credits, the TCU requires 4 credits and the CCM requires 1 credit. Credits are universal and can be used across many vehicles lines (Ford, Dodge and so on). Once you buy credits you have to sync them to the MPVI1/2/3 depending on which MPVI you have. Once you sync the credits to the MPVI then you open the HPT Editor and then when you read or try to write to the appropriate module you are asked to license the VIN. Those credits are tied to each individual MPVI and tied to the VIN for that module.
So if the OP buys a MPVI and the appropriate credits and license the vehicles to his MPVI those credits are forever tied to that VIN on that MPVI module. If he then decides to have a shop do work that needs tuning changes and the shop doesnt use his MPVI and the shop uses their MPVI they will need to buy the correct amount of credits and then license their MPVI to his tune, which means yes the OP will have to pay the shop for not only their tuning work but also for those credits.
At this piont if the OP uses a shop to make the changes he wants I am sure the shop will charge him $1 for $1 for the tuning credits needed as well as their labor charge for their time to make the needed changes. Probably wont cost as much as a ew MPVI and the needed credits, but it will cost something for sure.
and no they are not tied to the vin. this comes directly from hp tuners since I was in this very position. had a shop tune my car and tcu . total of 6 credits. got the car back and asked the best way to datalog. tuner said buy a mpvII. bought one and asked how to get the credits on the unit and found out it cant be done have to buy them all over again.
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my point was if he buys a tune from a tuner the tuner loads the credits own HIS unit the owner of the car does not own the credits. the shop does. if he changes tuners or sells the car the credits do not go with it.
and no they are not tied to the vin. this comes directly from hp tuners since I was in this very position. had a shop tune my car and tcu . total of 6 credits. got the car back and asked the best way to datalog. tuner said buy a mpvII. bought one and asked how to get the credits on the unit and found out it cant be done have to buy them all over again.
and no they are not tied to the vin. this comes directly from hp tuners since I was in this very position. had a shop tune my car and tcu . total of 6 credits. got the car back and asked the best way to datalog. tuner said buy a mpvII. bought one and asked how to get the credits on the unit and found out it cant be done have to buy them all over again.
Yeah the mistake here was not buying the mpvii (now mpviii) first and licensing it yourself. This is what I did and when I had my car tuned by ECS I just left them my mpviii in the car to use. I've had the car retuned by two more tuners and only pay for their services and not more credits.
Costs more up front but if you ever have your car retuned you'll save money in the end and it will pay for itself.
Just to clarify though. You don't need credits to read tunes or log the car. Only to flash tunes.
Safety Car
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From: nashville TN
Yeah the mistake here was not buying the mpvii (now mpviii) first and licensing it yourself. This is what I did and when I had my car tuned by ECS I just left them my mpviii in the car to use. I've had the car retuned by two more tuners and only pay for their services and not more credits.
Costs more up front but if you ever have your car retuned you'll save money in the end and it will pay for itself.
Just to clarify though. You don't need credits to read tunes or log the car. Only to flash tunes.
Costs more up front but if you ever have your car retuned you'll save money in the end and it will pay for itself.
Just to clarify though. You don't need credits to read tunes or log the car. Only to flash tunes.
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The i3 will give you the ability to lower the target cooling fan temps, as well as adjust the idle speed.
BONUS, it also comes preloaded with performance tunes for 91 or 93 octane fuel that you can easily load to the PCM anytime you wish.
You can make the fan and idle adjustments to our provided tunes, or to the stock tune with just your changes applied.
You can also adjust rev limit, tire size, throttle sensitivity, disable skip shift or AFM, and more.