Corvette at Nurburgring NOW
09-30-2014, 04:13 PM
#82
Le Mans Master
They are all Z06. The Z07 is a pkge, not a model
09-30-2014, 04:43 PM
#84
Melting Slicks
Pretty sure GM is already spending money on Jet fuel to get the replacements there if fixable. They don't play around with that kind of stuff, if they already didn't bring spares that is. Too much on the line.
09-30-2014, 04:56 PM
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09-30-2014, 04:58 PM
#86
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09-30-2014, 05:41 PM
#87
Team Owner
Just like the 'Z51 badge' craze from a few years back, I can already see the HUGE 'Z07 badges' aftermarket brewing as we type LOL.
People will even be slappin' those things on their Chevrolet Sonics and Sparks!
People will even be slappin' those things on their Chevrolet Sonics and Sparks!
Just when I think the crowd at Corvette Forum can't possibly get any more idiotic, some "better idiot" comes along and proves me wrong. Nicely done.
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09-30-2014, 05:58 PM
#88
Le Mans Master
Just when I think the crowd at Corvette Forum can't possibly get any more idiotic, some "better idiot" comes along and proves me wrong. Nicely done.
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09-30-2014, 06:08 PM
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I'd wager a dollar, that if we put you in the passenger seat of the car driven by that "overweight giant who drives there once every couple years if that", you'd be soiling your Fruit-of-the-Looms long before he even pushed the car to it's limits.
09-30-2014, 06:11 PM
#90
Drifting
-- He only has roughly 1200 laps at the ring, I think Mero is certainly qualified. 
09-30-2014, 06:15 PM
#91
09-30-2014, 06:31 PM
#92
Burning Brakes
09-30-2014, 06:45 PM
#93
Just when I think the crowd at Corvette Forum can't possibly get any more idiotic, some "better idiot" comes along and proves me wrong. Nicely done.
When you have something useful to add to the thread, feel free to pipe back up. Until then, go back to the whatever hole you came from.
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09-30-2014, 07:24 PM
#94
Drifting
I don't think a Corvette with any modified parts would qualify as production if they moved the good parts to the lesser Z06.
I can't imagine GM going to the Ring without spare cars.
I can't imagine GM going to the Ring without spare cars.
09-30-2014, 07:39 PM
#95
I didn't know he had that many laps there, how did you come up with that figure? Seems most manufacturers hire a professional driver. I'm sure hauling a extra 100lbs around the ring sure doesn't help the times.
09-30-2014, 08:00 PM
#96
Drifting
Mero: The fastest guys in the ’Ring are not the guys who are the fastest drivers in general; it’s the guys who have the most laps on the ’Ring. We’ve had [Corvette Racing’s] Jan Magnussen at Nürburgring for us in the past, but he doesn’t have the time in his schedule to commit to two to three weeks of continuous running on that track to learn the sweet spot of every corner and the sweet spot of whatever car he’s driving in that corner. It takes 100 laps, maybe more, to find the perfect setting, the perfect point to accelerate, and where you want the car rotated in each corner. Those guys just don’t have the time to commit to doing it.
Juechter: Corvette Racing’s drivers are accustomed to cars with massive downforce. Taking a production car that’s realistically tuned primarily for street driving and taking it at its limit around the ’Ring is a specialized skill. Like Jim says, it takes a lot of laps to learn not just that track, but also that car on the track.
Another reason we use Jim is that he’s the guy who has to balance all the performance attributes of the chassis—both track and street. You get a professional race car driver there who’s used to dictating how he wants the car set up and that’s fine for the track, but the Nürburgring [is one of Corvette’s testbeds] for tuning that eventually goes out on the street and lives in the real world.
Mero: Give a guy a couple thousand pounds of downforce and slicks, and then stick him in a car with no downforce and full-treaded tires, and he struggles for an awful long time, like Jan Magnussen did in 2008. We have an issue with a lot of guys—prior Corvette Chief Engineer Tom Wallace being another one. It took us a lot of trips to get him comfortable in a ZR1 because he’s used to massive downforce and slicks. Take that all away, and it’s a whole new learning curve for him.
Juechter: And it’s nothing against the professional race car drivers. Jan Magnussen—even when we’re hanging around other professional race drivers—they talk about him with reverence. So we’re not in any way trying to diminish those guys’ capabilities. It’s just a matter of getting used to that kind of vehicle on that track.
Read more: http://www.superchevy.com/features/v...#ixzz3EqYPWL8i
Last edited by RedLS6; 09-30-2014 at 08:46 PM.
09-30-2014, 08:12 PM
#97
From an old Super Chevy article;
Mero: The fastest guys in the ’Ring are not the guys who are the fastest drivers in general; it’s the guys who have the most laps on the ’Ring. We’ve had [Corvette Racing’s] Jan Magnussen at Nürburgring for us in the past, but he doesn’t have the time in his schedule to commit to two to three weeks of continuous running on that track to learn the sweet spot of every corner and the sweet spot of whatever car he’s driving in that corner. It takes 100 laps, maybe more, to find the perfect setting, the perfect point to accelerate, and where you want the car rotated in each corner. Those guys just don’t have the time to commit to doing it.
Juechter: Corvette Racing’s drivers are accustomed to cars with massive downforce. Taking a production car that’s realistically tuned primarily for street driving and taking it at its limit around the ’Ring is a specialized skill. Like Jim says, it takes a lot of laps to learn not just that track, but also that car on the track.
Another reason we use Jim is that he’s the guy who has to balance all the performance attributes of the chassis—both track and street. You get a professional race car driver there who’s used to dictating how he wants the car set up and that’s fine for the track, but the Nürburgring [is one of Corvette’s testbeds] for tuning that eventually goes out on the street and lives in the real world.
Mero: Give a guy a couple thousand pounds of downforce and slicks, and then stick him in a car with no downforce and full-treaded tires, and he struggles for an awful long time, like Jan Magnussen did in 2008. We have an issue with a lot of guys—prior Corvette Chief Engineer Tom Wallace being another one. It took us a lot of trips to get him comfortable in a ZR1 because he’s used to massive downforce and slicks. Take that all away, and it’s a whole new learning curve for him.
Juechter: And it’s nothing against the professional race car drivers. Jan Magnussen—even when we’re hanging around other professional race drivers—they talk about him with reverence. So we’re not in any way trying to diminish those guys’ capabilities. It’s just a matter of getting used to that kind of vehicle on that track.
Read more: http://www.superchevy.com/features/v...#ixzz3EqYPWL8i
Mero: The fastest guys in the ’Ring are not the guys who are the fastest drivers in general; it’s the guys who have the most laps on the ’Ring. We’ve had [Corvette Racing’s] Jan Magnussen at Nürburgring for us in the past, but he doesn’t have the time in his schedule to commit to two to three weeks of continuous running on that track to learn the sweet spot of every corner and the sweet spot of whatever car he’s driving in that corner. It takes 100 laps, maybe more, to find the perfect setting, the perfect point to accelerate, and where you want the car rotated in each corner. Those guys just don’t have the time to commit to doing it.
Juechter: Corvette Racing’s drivers are accustomed to cars with massive downforce. Taking a production car that’s realistically tuned primarily for street driving and taking it at its limit around the ’Ring is a specialized skill. Like Jim says, it takes a lot of laps to learn not just that track, but also that car on the track.
Another reason we use Jim is that he’s the guy who has to balance all the performance attributes of the chassis—both track and street. You get a professional race car driver there who’s used to dictating how he wants the car set up and that’s fine for the track, but the Nürburgring [is one of Corvette’s testbeds] for tuning that eventually goes out on the street and lives in the real world.
Mero: Give a guy a couple thousand pounds of downforce and slicks, and then stick him in a car with no downforce and full-treaded tires, and he struggles for an awful long time, like Jan Magnussen did in 2008. We have an issue with a lot of guys—prior Corvette Chief Engineer Tom Wallace being another one. It took us a lot of trips to get him comfortable in a ZR1 because he’s used to massive downforce and slicks. Take that all away, and it’s a whole new learning curve for him.
Juechter: And it’s nothing against the professional race car drivers. Jan Magnussen—even when we’re hanging around other professional race drivers—they talk about him with reverence. So we’re not in any way trying to diminish those guys’ capabilities. It’s just a matter of getting used to that kind of vehicle on that track.
Read more: http://www.superchevy.com/features/v...#ixzz3EqYPWL8i
09-30-2014, 08:27 PM
#99
RedLS6: Thanks for posting factual and useful information!
Isn't it funny how with almost every issue once you drill down to the facts and details then superficial comments from those with low information turn out to be about as useless as **** on a boar hog
Isn't it funny how with almost every issue once you drill down to the facts and details then superficial comments from those with low information turn out to be about as useless as **** on a boar hog