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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 05:27 PM
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918: 6:57/1:30.97 = 4.584
ACR: 7:12.13/1:33.92 = 4.601
mean 4.6375
ZR1: 7:19.63/1:33.72 = 4.691
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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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Nissan GTR Nismo 7:08.68
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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 05:55 PM
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Nissan GTR Nismo 7:08.68
Skews the data too much!?

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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
Skews the data too much!?

Meaning?
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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 06:11 PM
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Meaning?
They haven't been fast enough here to really justify that number, and they are inconsistent. That would actually net them that really good number that isn't really representative of their efforts overall.

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Old Dec 13, 2014 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
They haven't been fast enough here to really justify that number, and they are inconsistent. That would actually net them that really good number that isn't really representative of their efforts overall.

Explain. Nissan? So u are saying that GTR time isn't valid?
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I believe the z06 could do a similar time if the ecu allows it too.
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 06:07 AM
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Explain. Nissan? So u are saying that GTR time isn't valid?
Sure it's valid.....as long as you realize that you have to spend an additional $75k on top of your $150k Nismo addition to run that time.

Most don't realize this. Or simply ignore it.
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Z06nick714
Explain. Nissan? So u are saying that GTR time isn't valid?
where is that video proving GTR 7.08 time?

They tend to race for days and take each fastest sector time and make a "theoretical" fast lap.... But again, i would love to see the video proof.

BTW what did Sport Auto do ?

In Europe, we tend to lean against what Sport Auto manage to do during their test, same driver and he try hard to get the most out of production/customer delivered cars

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found lap times, its disturbing that 918 time is 16 seconds behind Porsches claimed best time, while 911 GT2 RS is only 6 seconds off the posted and claimed Porsche time. But they also tested ZR1 and was almost 20 sec. behind GMs Jim Mero.... wtf....

Phuh , Sport Auto tested 2009 ZR1, the car Jim did 7.26.4, so its only 12 seconds slower.... SportAuto has not tested 2012 and newer ZR1....

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Originally Posted by Z06Norway
where is that video proving GTR 7.08 time?

They tend to race for days and take each fastest sector time and make a "theoretical" fast lap.... But again, i would love to see the video proof.

BTW what did Sport Auto do ?

In Europe, we tend to lean against what Sport Auto manage to do during their test, same driver and he try hard to get the most out of production/customer delivered cars

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found lap times, its disturbing that 918 time is 16 seconds behind Porsches claimed best time, while 911 GT2 RS is only 6 seconds off the posted and claimed Porsche time. But they also tested ZR1 and was almost 20 sec. behind GMs Jim Mero.... wtf....

Phuh , Sport Auto tested 2009 ZR1, the car Jim did 7.26.4, so its only 12 seconds slower.... SportAuto has not tested 2012 and newer ZR1....

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Hopefully that link to the video will work. If not YouTube gtr nismo nurburgring. As previously pointed out, the nismo gtr is significantly more expensive than the z06 so I am not sure video means much. If I were going to buy a car at the nismo price range, I would get the porsche gt3.

I have a GTR that I am new at tracking. I also am next up on the list at my local Chevy dealership for a Z06. Besides the z06 being a beautifully styled car, I was looking forward to the most track ready car gm has ever built. There is no perfect car. When pushed hard enough (in the summer , at certain tracks), my GTR will start to overheat. I will need an aftermarket cooler.

The info about the z06 losing power in the winter months and cooler weather is concerning. If it does it now, who knows what will happen during the summer. I will hold off on my purchase one and see how this plays out.

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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by redzone
Sure it's valid.....as long as you realize that you have to spend an additional $75k on top of your $150k Nismo addition to run that time.

Most don't realize this. Or simply ignore it.
LOL. And who told u this?
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Z06Norway
where is that video proving GTR 7.08 time?

They tend to race for days and take each fastest sector time and make a "theoretical" fast lap.... But again, i would love to see the video proof.

BTW what did Sport Auto do ?

In Europe, we tend to lean against what Sport Auto manage to do during their test, same driver and he try hard to get the most out of production/customer delivered cars

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found lap times, its disturbing that 918 time is 16 seconds behind Porsches claimed best time, while 911 GT2 RS is only 6 seconds off the posted and claimed Porsche time. But they also tested ZR1 and was almost 20 sec. behind GMs Jim Mero.... wtf....

Phuh , Sport Auto tested 2009 ZR1, the car Jim did 7.26.4, so its only 12 seconds slower.... SportAuto has not tested 2012 and newer ZR1....

Rune

No, that would be Porsche that does the segment times. Nissan has released a video of pretty much every ring time they have released.

The ultimate point though ,was that the GT-R's times on the ring have no translated at Laguna Seca at all. But it was not the regular Nismo that did the 7:08. It had some other upgrades on it. I forget what they call it.

Did the Sport Auto 918 have the Weissach package on it? There was a specific package on that car that got the fastest ring time....
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 11:33 AM
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If anyone believes the GTR really ran a 7:08 at the ring, there's great deals going on swampland.

If the GTR was really a 7:08 Car, it wouldn't have gotten it's track edition *** kicked by a Z51 C7, a Camaro Z/28, and it would have shown up to obliterate Laguna Seca instead of remaining nowhere insight of the top 5 let alone top spot.
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Originally Posted by MavsAK
If anyone believes the GTR really ran a 7:08 at the ring, there's great deals going on swampland.

If the GTR was really a 7:08 Car, it wouldn't have gotten it's track edition *** kicked by a Z51 C7, a Camaro Z/28, and it would have shown up to obliterate Laguna Seca instead of remaining nowhere insight of the top 5 let alone top spot.

It ran it, there is a video right there...........

How about you go learn up on the GT-R so you can make educated comments on it. I don't like the GT-R, but your rambling is all over the place.
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
It ran it, there is a video right there...........

How about you go learn up on the GT-R so you can make educated comments on it. I don't like the GT-R, but your rambling is all over the place.
Do you really think that was a stock GTR?
Seriously, why don't you go look at it's laptimes outside of the Ring and Nismos hands.
Even a Z/28 on damp pavement is faster.
The GTR is the king of one thing, Hype.
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Z06nick714
LOL. And who told u this?
http://www.nismo.co.jp/en/news_list/...sh/140006.html

The GTR Nismo that ran the Ring time is what they are calling then N Attack package. As you can see it includes over $80K in upgrades over the regular GTR Nismo. I am not sure they have even built any for customers yet. The GTR Nismos that have been tested in this country are the "regular" ones and not anywhere as fast.
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Originally Posted by racerns
http://www.nismo.co.jp/en/news_list/...sh/140006.html

The GTR Nismo that ran the Ring time is what they are calling then N Attack package. As you can see it includes over $80K in upgrades over the regular GTR Nismo. I am not sure they have even built any for customers yet. The GTR Nismos that have been tested in this country are the "regular" ones and not anywhere as fast.
I agree. As I stated, I am not sure the video means much since the car they ran is much more expensive than the z06. Not comparing apples to apples.

The Nismo that everybody can buy goes for about $150K. Laguna time was barely faster than the Porsche 911 turbo S in the latest motor trend review.

I love all types of cars. I was looking forward to having both the stingray z06 to play with and compare it to my GTR. Two completely different cars. I could not imagine a better father / son day! For now, I will hold off on my purchase to see how it all plays out.
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Phuh , Sport Auto tested 2009 ZR1, the car Jim did 7.26.4, so its only 12 seconds slower.... SportAuto has not tested 2012 and newer ZR1....

Rune
official ZR1 ring time is 7:19.63 and that's what everybody goes by.
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Originally Posted by MavsAK
Do you really think that was a stock GTR?
Seriously, why don't you go look at it's laptimes outside of the Ring and Nismos hands.
Even a Z/28 on damp pavement is faster.
The GTR is the king of one thing, Hype.
"stock" is a term I think Nissan uses loosely.

My point though is that you need to learn the difference in the models and not compare lap times as if they are all the same. There is a track package which isn't really any faster than the regular GT-R at all. Then there is the Nismo, then there is the Ring Nismo which had even more upgrades. That car has not been tested in the states, nor do we have a lap time for the regular nismo.

That being said, I would assume the regular Nismo would be faster than the last GT-R which should still make it faster than the ZR1 at Laguna but it's not. So I agree with you, but for different reasons.
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I found a rumor on one of the forums regarding ring times that the Z06 hit 7:08 and change. If this is true, it could be GM wants to beat the Nismo time before posting an official time.

After looking at the Z06 this morning, I can testify that the car is one impressive machine. It may not be perfect but it will be a badass car with some mods. Randy Probst said the car could use another 100hp, that would be a good place to start. I don't think the extra 100hp will come with a tune and a new pulley. It may require a more extensive package but who cares.
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