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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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I hear a bunch of haters on the GTR. Face the facts. The GTR ran the times they ran. The car wasn't a ringer. It is the nismo edition that u can now buy. Why do corvette guys hate so much? SMFH
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 04:26 PM
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Default Thanks I didn't want to revisit the GTR stuff!



As far as the C7 Z06 goes we know it will be great at Mazda by what it did at Atlanta!

And if its pulling timing that might actually be of some help getting it through The longer Ring. 650 is a bunch to keep hooked up and all of it probably isn't necessary to get it comfortably in the mid teens there. Mid teens there would be a great addition to the 2.95, 10.95, 22.5, 91 #s. Don't forget except for the paint job this car is now a nice complete package, which, doesn't need a track prep.


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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Z06nick714
I hear a bunch of haters on the GTR. Face the facts. The GTR ran the times they ran. The car wasn't a ringer. It is the nismo edition that u can now buy. Why do corvette guys hate so much? SMFH
Fact! The reason doesn't even matter.

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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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Its amazing what the GTR haters will make up to try and discredit the car.
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 05:50 PM
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I think the GTR is amazing but I feel like it is priced way too high. Even the GTRs in stock are now being reduced by over $10k, yet all the used cars or those who try to sell their used cars think it is worth $100k. I have been following the GTR forum for quite awhile. That is the only problem I have with the GTR, other than that I love it
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TearExtractor
Its amazing what the GTR haters will make up to try and discredit the car.
I have been looking through some other races and the GTR did well in many of them, but, its power was 480hp then:

http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow..._17_miles.html

Not sure they did themselves any favors going up in power?
And getting back to the C7 Z07's pulling power!? And again I'm thinking it may be a good thing if it saves the drive train and keeps it moving! Any car that is dialed in is going to feel like it can take more power!

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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 08:06 PM
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Default And then there is this!

With a best lap of 1:25.2 and a top track speed of 110.7 mph, the GT-R is off the Corvette's pace. Blame the desert heat on this summer day all you want, but when push comes to shove, the GT-R gets hot, dials back power and can't keep up with the less powerful, less costly Corvette.

http://www.gtrlife.com/forums/topic/...track-edition/

Sound familiar! Did the GTR used to get hot as readily?
And does the new Z06 have enough extra power so this won't matter for that 7 minutes! No shortage of intrigue still! dadum!


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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by johnglenntwo
Ring/Mazda

918: 6:57/1:30.97 = 4.584
ACR: 7:12.13/1:33.92 = 4.601
mean 4.6375
ZR1: 7:19.63/1:33.72 = 4.691
C7Z06!?

(C7Z06: 1:33*4.601 = 7:07.893)

That could sure work!


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Originally Posted by shayneusmc
I think the GTR is amazing but I feel like it is priced way too high. Even the GTRs in stock are now being reduced by over $10k, yet all the used cars or those who try to sell their used cars think it is worth $100k. I have been following the GTR forum for quite awhile. That is the only problem I have with the GTR, other than that I love it
Yeah I have a buddy that I race with in my track club that bought the Track Edition GTR last year brand new off showroom floor for $95k. They don't seem to sell real well.

They are fast though. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been around at the track with them. They are easy to drive fast, he can keep up/beat race prepped vettes and he's a dentist that has no background in racing.
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Old Dec 14, 2014 | 10:54 PM
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Laguna is about 3-4 seconds slower lap than Road Atlanta. This is across multiple groups and multiple classes. A guy giving 100% at Road Atlanta and then taking said car to Laguna will be 3-4 seconds slower. With Randy at the wheel this adds up to a 1:33-1:34. Unless they bring a car that doesn't slow down, you can count on it. I'll eat crow if I'm wrong, but I highly doubt I am.

Also cutting timing is not in any way beneficial on the ring. Not with a nearly mile long straight at the end of the lap. It's going to lose a ton of time. I think that's why there is no ring time. It gets mauled on the back straight after 7 minutes of mostly WOT on the rest of the track.
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Z06nick714
LOL. And who told u this?


The Nismo GT-R that set the Nurbugring time of 7:08 was the N-attack package and not the standard Nismo. The package includes carbon front fenders, a carbon hood gurney, a front spoiler and a 12-stage, height-adjustable rear wing as well as four-way Öhlins adjustable dampers, a front limited-slip differential, a carbon plate rear limited-slip differential, dedicated intercooler piping made from carbon and aluminum, and different engine control management and traction control management.
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 09:56 AM
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Has Nissan even made this n-attack package available to the public? Has anyone even tested one? The regular Nismo is rare as it is.......
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Has Nissan even made this n-attack package available to the public? Has anyone even tested one? The regular Nismo is rare as it is.......
It is available to the public and is an option on the Nismo car only.
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Has Nissan even made this n-attack package available to the public? Has anyone even tested one? The regular Nismo is rare as it is.......
According to the link I posted from back in July, they were accepting orders for in Japan cars only at that time. As far as I know none have made it into private hands for any testing. I doubt it will come to the states since they were talking about structural changes needed. That would require another crash test.
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Old Dec 15, 2014 | 12:52 PM
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It's an 8,200,000 yen add on option, so at today's exchange rates, right under $70,000.

http://www.nismo.co.jp/en/news_list/...sh/140006.html

That gets glossed over so much in the endless repeating of that time and of course the press release is a little sketchy on whether or not this package is all that was done to that car as well.

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Originally Posted by Skullbussa
It is available to the public and is an option on the Nismo car only.
That is not correct - in North America.

Japan is the only market that has access to the N-attack package.

The new 2015 GTR has actually proven to be slower than a 2010 GTR around a track in an independent test - so it's new Engineer who replaced Mizuno has a new mandate from Carlos Ghosn to soften the car up.

I am not a fan of the new direction.

The recent magazine issues with the GTR have been octane based - not heat based. Nissans tune is severely affected by the 91 octane of many of the reviewers testing. Even with octane boost its just not the same. That is Nissans fault as their tune is set to pull timing very aggressively.

The recent GTRs are struggling with sales and they are not moving out of the dealerships very well at all. Price is a major factor.
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Originally Posted by occar
It's an 8,200,000 yen add on option, so at today's exchange rates, right under $70,000.

http://www.nismo.co.jp/en/news_list/...sh/140006.html

That gets glossed over so much in the endless repeating of that time.
Correct. And without carbon ceramic brakes and even R compound tires - Nissan is making it almost impossible to justify that price as you will be over the Turbo S, upcoming GT3RS and likely new 600+ Turbo S price tags.
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Originally Posted by heavychevy
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Laguna is about 3-4 seconds slower lap than Road Atlanta. This is across multiple groups and multiple classes. A guy giving 100% at Road Atlanta and then taking said car to Laguna will be 3-4 seconds slower. With Randy at the wheel this adds up to a 1:33-1:34. Unless they bring a car that doesn't slow down, you can count on it. I'll eat crow if I'm wrong, but I highly doubt I am.

Also cutting timing is not in any way beneficial on the ring. Not with a nearly mile long straight at the end of the lap. It's going to lose a ton of time. I think that's why there is no ring time. It gets mauled on the back straight after 7 minutes of mostly WOT on the rest of the track.
I hope NOT!

But, an 8.2ltr, VVT, 6500RPM, NA, AFM all day long, lighter Z06 would really have worked for me!

HOPE YOUR WRONG!


"And PTM is cutting timing all the way through in the turns (on the race car too!), thank God!"


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