2015 Z06 vs 2015 Nissan GTR (both stock)
#21
#22
Got Boost?!
You guys do remember the first C6 Z06 video we got to see against a super car (Gallardo)... this is what got us all crazy when the first C6 Z came to the scene...
I know every one was shocked when this video came out.
I know every one was shocked when this video came out.
#23
I really don't think team corvette is going to address this heat soak issue at all. I am convinced they feel that 90% of all vette owners are men over 50 years old who don't care all about tracks or drag strips. They know there cars will be, for the large majority, boulevard cruisers.
There is no way GM did NOT know about this heat soak situation before releasing this car. I don't think this is getting fixed folks....that's just me.
There is no way GM did NOT know about this heat soak situation before releasing this car. I don't think this is getting fixed folks....that's just me.
1. Buy the car and mod it.
2. Buy something else.
3. Wait for the ZR1/Zora to come out.
#24
Team Owner
#25
Instructor
So you have to void your warranty for it to competent at the track? Seems like GM is giving the middle finger to the 5% of owners that will track their car. A calculated move by GM or just incompetence? Sadly probably the latter.
#26
It was (and still is) a crazy car for its time.
#28
You guys do remember the first C6 Z06 video we got to see against a super car (Gallardo)... this is what got us all crazy when the first C6 Z came to the scene...
Stock Corvette Z06 vs Gallardo with Tubi Exhaust - YouTube
I know every one was shocked when this video came out.
Stock Corvette Z06 vs Gallardo with Tubi Exhaust - YouTube
I know every one was shocked when this video came out.
#29
Got Boost?!
When people ask why some of us are "disappointed", I think it is because we EXPECTED the C7 Z to come out banging and to do the exact same thing as it did in the past, or even better. Don't get me wrong, this car is amazing, and I will definitely be buying one, but we can't deny how sweet the C6Z pulled w/ ~460rwhp.
#30
What I mean is - it likely is true that the majority of any supercar owner will likely not race it (at least extensively) - should it not still have the capability to perform as intended (as a track car for example - let's forget roll racing as I agree - that is not its design focus). Without the need for someone to break warranty to "unlock" the existing potential of the car?
Is there another car on the market that forces you to do this?
Last edited by vtknight; 12-19-2014 at 10:34 PM.
#31
Team Owner
Couldn't find anything on the 2015 GT-R with 545 HP, but the 2012 GT-R with 530 HP did 11.2 @ 124 and 0-150 in 17.8 seconds.
Doesn't the obsolete C6 Z06 do 0-150 in 17.1 seconds(without a tune that dumps the warranty).
Doesn't the obsolete C6 Z06 do 0-150 in 17.1 seconds(without a tune that dumps the warranty).
Last edited by JoesC5; 12-19-2014 at 10:36 PM.
#32
Le Mans Master
#33
When people ask why some of us are "disappointed", I think it is because we EXPECTED the C7 Z to come out banging and to do the exact same thing as it did in the past, or even better. Don't get me wrong, this car is amazing, and I will definitely be buying one, but we can't deny how sweet the C6Z pulled w/ ~460rwhp.
Expectations were through the roof. We are now hitting diminishing marginal returns WRT performance gains. GM seemed to focus more so on the aesthetics (looks more exotic, better interior, better materials, etc).
Expectations totally bloated....this is a ZO6...a ZO6...aka - the "middle child." Keep that in perspective. Big brother is on the way, and he will probably have a chip on his shoulder...
Last edited by Paulchristian; 12-19-2014 at 10:44 PM.
#34
Again - stock GTRs are not mid to top end cars. This is an easy fix (tune and free'd up mid pipe).
FBO and E85 adds to this of course.
That said - stock GTRs are amazing from the dig - but roll racing has never been their thing (comparatively).
#35
I know you are a C7 Z06 owner - but is it frustration with the postings lately that made you write that post - or do you believe that?
What I mean is - it likely is true that the majority of any supercar owner will likely not race it (at least extensively) - should it not still have the capability to perform as intended (as a track car for example - let's forget roll racing as I agree - that is not its design focus). Without the need for someone to break warranty to "unlock" the existing potential of the car?
Is there another car on the market that forces you to do this?
What I mean is - it likely is true that the majority of any supercar owner will likely not race it (at least extensively) - should it not still have the capability to perform as intended (as a track car for example - let's forget roll racing as I agree - that is not its design focus). Without the need for someone to break warranty to "unlock" the existing potential of the car?
Is there another car on the market that forces you to do this?
If I was serious about racing, I might be really disappointed. But, at 46, I'm done trying to prove that my crank is big enough. I'm more focused on positive carry, and couldn't care less about who's faster on the freeway. There's only one speed at the bank drive thru.
#36
I had a GTR, there sweet spot is from a 40 roll in 2nd...60 is NOT a good roll for a GTR... Nice kill either way...Your buddy better hope the GTR owner doesn't do full bolt ons and e85 bc it wont be pretty....
#37
And I would guess that 90% is about right.
#38
Expectations were through the roof. We are now hitting diminishing marginal returns WRT performance gains. GM seemed to focus more so on the aesthetics (looks more exotic, better interior, better materials, etc).
Expectations totally bloated....this is a ZO6...a ZO6...aka - the "middle child." Keep that in perspective. Big brother is on the way, and he will probably have a chip on his shoulder...
PS - Happy holidays!!
#40
I completely agree with you. As a vette fan, of course it stings a bit to learn that the new Z gets winded after a few freeway pulls. But, because I don't do freeway pulls, and would be the first to call the cops if I saw one in action, it doesn't really affect my feelings about the car. It looks awesome, is fast as hell, and is a super cheap toy. What's not to like?
If I was serious about racing, I might be really disappointed. But, at 46, I'm done trying to prove that my crank is big enough. I'm more focused on positive carry, and couldn't care less about who's faster on the freeway. There's only one speed at the bank drive thru.
If I was serious about racing, I might be really disappointed. But, at 46, I'm done trying to prove that my crank is big enough. I'm more focused on positive carry, and couldn't care less about who's faster on the freeway. There's only one speed at the bank drive thru.
It really IS a beautiful car and is still one of the fastest stock production vehicles in its class out there.
I am sure you will enjoy it - congrats on the car!