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Old Apr 25, 2015 | 10:37 AM
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For a cam and full bolt on car without nitrous should I run a single nozzle or dual nozzle meth set up. I will probably run an alky kit either way. Thanks!
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????????

Are you in the wrong section?
Single vs Dual nozzle Meth???? Really?
Alky AND meth?????
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????????

Are you in the wrong section?
Single vs Dual nozzle Meth???? Really?
Alky AND meth?????
I am not sure why you are confused. I am planning on getting a cam, headers, xpipe etc on my z06 in the near future and I am planning on running a meth kit on my car. I am asking if people are running a single or dual nozzle kit. I have been talking to shops and there seems to be some difference in opinions.
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It wouldn't be the first time I stuck my nose in where it didn't belong. sorry.
Here's the reason for my questions...
You'd be the first private owner (I think) to invest in a cam on an LT4
Unless you're spraying a huge amount of meth I've not heard of using dual nozzles.
Meth and alky both serve the same general purpose. Although they can both be used as additional fuel they are usually used for cooling IAT's (I think)

Again,,, maybe I just poked in where I didn't belong.

GL with your endeavor.
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It wouldn't be the first time I stuck my nose in where it didn't belong. sorry.
Here's the reason for my questions...
You'd be the first private owner (I think) to invest in a cam on an LT4
Unless you're spraying a huge amount of meth I've not heard of using dual nozzles.
Meth and alky both serve the same general purpose. Although they can both be used as additional fuel they are usually used for cooling IAT's (I think)

Again,,, maybe I just poked in where I didn't belong.

GL with your endeavor.
Thank you for the comments. I use meth on all my forced induction cars because of where I live. Poor air, poor fuel, high altitude and extreme heat. I just never touch the wrenches anymore except basic stuff. Alky is the brand name of the kit i normally have installed. I wanted to know if the dual nozzle kit would be better or single nozzle. The cam I will use for the added power and I love the sound. Thanks again for the help.
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Thank you for the comments. I use meth on all my forced induction cars because of where I live. Poor air, poor fuel, high altitude and extreme heat. I just never touch the wrenches anymore except basic stuff. Alky is the brand name of the kit i normally have installed. I wanted to know if the dual nozzle kit would be better or single nozzle. The cam I will use for the added power and I love the sound. Thanks again for the help.
Im doing a two nozzle setup up on mine. Working on having a lid spacer for the blower made. They have them for the ctsv but no one is making one for ours yet. One nozzle on each side.
Also doing the Fasterproms thermal spacer with larger coolant tank.
I've also had it on all my other cars. Air intake temp as low as 120* drop. Running pure methanol.

You have to ignore of old farts on here that collect cars and are afraid to modify them.
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Im doing a two nozzle setup up on mine. Working on having a lid spacer for the blower made. They have them for the ctsv but no one is making one for ours yet. One nozzle on each side.
Also doing the Fasterproms thermal spacer with larger coolant tank.
I've also had it on all my other cars. Air intake temp as low as 120* drop. Running pure methanol.

You have to ignore of old farts on here that collect cars and are afraid to modify them.
Thanks I was beginning to wonder if I was in the twilight zone. I will look into fasterproms setup. I had ran a single nozzle on my C7 but was not as happy with it. Also I was unsure where to mount a 4 gallon tank as I was running out of the washer fluid . Running pure meth on this car should be a treat.
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For a cam and full bolt on car without nitrous should I run a single nozzle or dual nozzle meth set up. I will probably run an alky kit either way. Thanks!
Gotta ask, why cam? I'm not going to mention any names, but, a friend of mine w a Z51 LT4 just had one of the top three tuner shops do a cam, cmc heads, x pipe, delete cats, meth kit, crank case vent and a converter....AND my Z06 car still out pulls his, even though the tuner provided the dyno results showing his at 648 whp. ?? he has spent over $34k trying to run w my stock Z06. Hope this helps. I personally think the GM engineers have a great flowing exhaust, w max cam for street use. I know they are somewhat reserve because of warranty and emissions, but, not sure cam or headers are going to be a big advantage.
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Originally Posted by shftn7
For a cam and full bolt on car without nitrous should I run a single nozzle or dual nozzle meth set up. I will probably run an alky kit either way. Thanks!
Save your money and call ECS or A&A. Minimal benefit to running meth on an N/A set up, and if you do a single nozzle would be way more than enough. Duals come into play when you really start pushing some PSI in forced induction set ups.

This should probably be in one of the Tech Sections.
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Originally Posted by Dabigsnake
Gotta ask, why cam? I'm not going to mention any names, but, a friend of mine w a Z51 LT4 just had one of the top three tuner shops do a cam, cmc heads, x pipe, delete cats, meth kit, crank case vent and a converter....AND my Z06 car still out pulls his, even though the tuner provided the dyno results showing his at 648 whp. ?? he has spent over $34k trying to run w my stock Z06. Hope this helps. I personally think the GM engineers have a great flowing exhaust, w max cam for street use. I know they are somewhat reserve because of warranty and emissions, but, not sure cam or headers are going to be a big advantage.
I would be curious to hear about what shop if you would like to PM me. I am asking about meth on my z06 I have decided already to do a cam and headers because I like the sound. The performance aspect is secondary to me as the z06 with the tune and intake is a 10 sec car so it already meets my drag strip needs.

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Save your money and call ECS or A&A. Minimal benefit to running meth on an N/A set up, and if you do a single nozzle would be way more than enough. Duals come into play when you really start pushing some PSI in forced induction set ups.

This should probably be in one of the Tech Sections.
This is for my z06 to be clear so yes I already am pushing PSI
So with that in mind if you have some info about single versus dual nozzle I am all ears.
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Originally Posted by jbondfl
It wouldn't be the first time I stuck my nose in where it didn't belong. sorry.
Here's the reason for my questions...
You'd be the first private owner (I think) to invest in a cam on an LT4
Unless you're spraying a huge amount of meth I've not heard of using dual nozzles.
Meth and alky both serve the same general purpose. Although they can both be used as additional fuel they are usually used for cooling IAT's (I think)

Again,,, maybe I just poked in where I didn't belong.

GL with your endeavor.
There has been a lot of new z06 cars adding performance items to there cars
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You need to contact Late Model Racecraft in Houston. They will know what to do.
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Originally Posted by Dabigsnake
Gotta ask, why cam? I'm not going to mention any names, but, a friend of mine w a Z51 LT4 just had one of the top three tuner shops do a cam, cmc heads, x pipe, delete cats, meth kit, crank case vent and a converter....AND my Z06 car still out pulls his, even though the tuner provided the dyno results showing his at 648 whp. ?? he has spent over $34k trying to run w my stock Z06. Hope this helps. I personally think the GM engineers have a great flowing exhaust, w max cam for street use. I know they are somewhat reserve because of warranty and emissions, but, not sure cam or headers are going to be a big advantage.
648 cannot be RWHP. Maybe on the motor. The mods listed are not going to add 300 RWHP.
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648 cannot be RWHP. Maybe on the motor. The mods listed are not going to add 300 RWHP.
The numbers are possible on a z51 c7 With meth. Mine went from 400 rwhp stock to 605rwhp and I had an A6 and a conservative tune on 8lbs Of boost. mine had cats and stock heads.
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You need to contact Late Model Racecraft in Houston. They will know what to do.
I have contacted LMR and waiting on Rob to fix some things on quote. I am not fond of packaged deals. Truth be said if I could get the sound I would change the cam and add methonal and I would be happy without headers.
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I have a 2015 z06- I did L M R stage 2package. 734rwhp. No meth no need the car is fast
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I have a 2015 z06- I did L M R stage 2package. 734rwhp. No meth no need the car is fast
Thanks man, I want the meth because of the cooling and the ability to help out my poor gas, high altitude situation here. Sounds like a great build. You have dyno sheets to post and what a stage 2 package costs and provides?
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Thanks man, I want the meth because of the cooling and the ability to help out my poor gas, high altitude situation here. Sounds like a great build. You have dyno sheets to post and what a stage 2 package costs and provides?
You need to contact LMR for specific needs, you tube LMR stage 11 package for Dyno and graph 2months ago
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