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Old 05-08-2015, 06:16 PM
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Default Z06 C7.R vs 2016 Viper ACR

So, can the Z06 C7.R take down the 2016 Viper ACR?

I've been reading the options list for the C7.R, but it's hard to find the equipment that will make this model live up the name. So we have this:

C7.R Edition graphics package

Yellow brake calipers

Black wheels with yellow accent strip and Corvette Racing-logo center caps

New visible carbon fiber hood section

Yellow contrast stitching throughout the interio

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Numbered C7.R Edition interior plaque showing the build number, starting with VIN 700001


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"The Extreme Aero rear wing, specifically designed for air flow around the Viper's body, stands taller, sits further rearward and features unique end-plates and gurney lip to produce maximum downforce while minimizing straight line drag."

"This car is not a 1-3 lap track special. You can run the car at the track all day, and the performance doesn't fall off."

"All Vipers are engineered to withstand severe track duty in ambient temperatures of 100 degrees Fahrenheit with a professional driver."
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No way the c7r will get killed
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Originally Posted by lawdogg149
No way the c7r will get killed
not in a roll race...
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How many will they sell of these 200? Not enough to worry.
Then if you don't track the car. The Viper loses any sort street race
anyway. The car has a lot drag from the what ever they are on the front fenders. Then the goofy wing is too much over the top to seen in public!
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
How many will they sell of these 200? Not enough to worry.
Then if you don't track the car. The Viper loses any sort street race
anyway. The car has a lot drag from the what ever they are on the front fenders. Then the goofy wing is too much over the top to seen in public!
Yeah I'm pretty sure the Viper is neck and neck even with the A8 in a straight line, and the ACR is going to eat up the Z07 on track, even if it has to wait 4 laps for the vette to go into limp mode.

LOL @ sales numbers, keep it classy corvette forum. (Who gives a sh*t about that?)
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Top speed 177, this thing must have a ton of drag.
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Originally Posted by Bad_AX

"This car is not a 1-3 lap track special. You can run the car at the track all day, and the performance doesn't fall off."

"All Vipers are engineered to withstand severe track duty in ambient temperatures of 100 degrees Fahrenheit with a professional driver."
Sounds like a dig @ the z06
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Well I think OP knew the answer to his own question before posting.
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Originally Posted by Dethred
Yeah I'm pretty sure the Viper is neck and neck even with the A8 in a straight line, and the ACR is going to eat up the Z07 on track, even if it has to wait 4 laps for the vette to go into limp mode.

LOL @ sales numbers, keep it classy corvette forum. (Who gives a sh*t about that?)
I think it loses to the new Z06! A8 or M7! In straight line then there still putting V-10's Please buy 1 then check back and give us a report.
Cause there is not 1 bone in my body that wants one.
I'm traveling a few 1000 miles with mine soon. Getting 25 MPH!
In comfort.
The Viper is piece of crap for that! Oh no radio! either and lumpy ride .
The 12 mpg highway this Viper is going to get is making a gas thirsty track car. I heard the track gas is expensive.
If it beats the Z06 after a few laps who cares. It is not going to break the Z06 single laps time EVER! This car needs to compared to the C7
real track car. If want you talk tracking.

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Originally Posted by Dethred
Yeah I'm pretty sure the Viper is neck and neck even with the A8 in a straight line


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LOL @ sales numbers, keep it classy corvette forum. (Who gives a sh*t about that?)
Apparently Dodge since they lowered the price by fifteen thousand dollars
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
I think it loses to the new Z06! A8 or M7! In straight line then there still putting V-10's Please buy 1 then check back and give us a report.
Cause there is not 1 bone in my body that wants one.
I'm traveling a few 1000 miles with mine soon.
The Viper is piece of crap for that!
The 12 mpg highway this Viper is going to get is making a gas thirsty track car. I heard the track gas is expensive.
If it beats the Z06 after a few laps who cares. It is not going to break the Z06 single laps time EVER! This car needs to compared to the C7
real track car. If want you talk tracking.
But Chevrolet is calling it the C7.R. WTF?
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Top speed 177, this thing must have a ton of drag.
Hahaha yup! One ton of down force at that speed, ridiculous! And I thought the 400 lbs. on the Z07 package was a lot....
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Originally Posted by Bad_AX
But Chevrolet is calling it the C7.R. WTF?
Not that thing I mean Corvette's real track car! Not a 06 or 07!
There really street cars.

This viper is track car. No radio? You want to drive it 1000 miles I don't think so.

The Corvette Z06 is a million times the road car the V-10 Viper is so dead! Like I said they maybe sell 200 on there way out of business!
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
Not that thing I mean Corvette's real track car! Not a 06 or 07!
There really street cars.

This viper is track car. No radio? You want to drive it 1000 miles I don't think so.

The Corvette Z06 is a million times the road car the V-10 Viper is so dead! Like I said they maybe sell 200 on there way out of business!
So, do you think the Z06 C7.R will beat the ACR? That was the question I posted, not if the Viper sucks or if the brand is going to go out of business, or if it's a better road car than a Corvette. Will the Z06 C7.R be faster? After all Chevrolet told us it's the most track capable Corvette ever.
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Originally Posted by Bad_AX
So, do you think the Z06 C7.R will beat the ACR? That was the question I posted, not if the Viper sucks or if the brand is going to go out of business, or if it's a better road car than a Corvette. Will the Z06 C7.R be faster? After all Chevrolet told us it's the most track capable Corvette ever.
That BIG aero won't be of much help in either. But, road racing and The precise Ring will have the Viper winning, obviously! It will really be interesting in those hot lap tests though since the Vette's SC has more power under the curve and not all that downforce holding it back like the ACR. If the Vette's close the Viper loses worst case!

Dodge has the advantage having the Z06 to benchmark!


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Top speed 177, this thing must have a ton of drag.
How many road courses are hitting higher than 180?
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Old 05-08-2015, 08:30 PM
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The C7.R is nothing more than cute ornamentation on a Z06.

The ACR will be low sales - the most it ever sold was around 200-250 a year, it'll get close to the P1 time at Laguna Seca, but I doubt it'll best it.
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Originally Posted by 3 Z06ZR1
How many will they sell of these 200? Not enough to worry.
Then if you don't track the car, the Viper loses any sort street race
anyway. The car has a lot of drag from the what ever they are on the front fenders. Then the goofy wing is too much over the top to seen in public!
Right on.

Dodge I mean SRT I mean Dodge finally figured out that the ratio of online fanbois who DEMAND a "hardcore track version" to those who actually buy them is about 30,000 to 1, for exactly the reasons you list. Very few will want to live such a car daily.

This from a former S2000 CR owner who put 79,000 miles on a "club racer" that reviewers said couldn't be daily driven, but that's just me. Honda only sold about 600 of them after saying they would build 1,500. Mine at least had radio and air, and I really enjoyed the firm ride and sharp handling. It came with a fixed wing that the same reviewers said looked like a 12-year-old drew it, but I liked it, not least because the struts were in exactly the right place to bungee a cockpit cover when the roof was off.
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Originally Posted by harlold
The C7.R is nothing more than cute ornamentation on a Z06.

The ACR will be low sales - the most it ever sold was around 200-250 a year, it'll get close to the P1 time at Laguna Seca, but I doubt it'll best it.
If you think about it, SRT's claim that this is not a "1-3 lap track special" applies to the Porsche 918 as well, which is the Laguna Seca lap record holder. The Porsche is likely to be faster one lap but that's it. It has to do the record by expunging all the juice in the batteries. After that the Viper will have it behind every lap.

The P1 does not have the traction to beat the Viper. I think traction will win between FMR platform vehicles. Equal aero between the P1 and Viper but the Viper has more mechanical grip. I'm pretty sure the McLaren might be heavier too if weighed on the same scale with fluids.
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