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Old 08-01-2017, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by FastestBusaAround
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I would take a Turbo 4S any day over the C7 Z06...and FWIW...a 4S will probably destroy a C7 Z06 in sheer acceleration off the line - you just can't compare RWD to AWD...

Sounds like the only thing you measure a car by is bang for the buck...but for me, and most serious car collectors/ owners, there's much more to it than that.

I could give a damn about that - the Porsche is a work of art with a serious quality build - as well as being a very serious performer.

0-60 (if that's how you want to measure it) goes to the Porsche...

So, how exactly does a Z06 "destroy" every single Porsche out there??

By the way, my FGT, which was only a bit more than a ZR1 when I bought it, will "destroy" a Z06 every single day...in every way, except price.

I would venture a guess that even a C7 Z won't touch my FGT's...and I have a 1000+ RWHP Z06 FWIW...
stock turbo S can't stop as hard or pull the G's a stock c7 z06/z07 can.

0-60 is a losing contest
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Originally Posted by Jsilvester81
stock turbo S can't stop as hard or pull the G's a stock c7 z06/z07 can.

0-60 is a losing contest
therefore 2017 turboS is no match for a 2017 c7 z06/z07 M7 on a road course.

Red neck Chevy is the better all around performer

lap times don't lie.

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Old 08-01-2017, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Schoony
I Feel the Heat as well my Palm Desert ZO6 friend! I live in Phoenix Arizona, Same temps, our highest in 2017 was 122° last month. Almost through it!
I own a 2015 ZO6 Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic. Supercharger experience heat soak in summer since I bought it. Winter it's a Beast!
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Hello! Arizona Partner. Beautiful color Z06. Not too many around.
Yes waiting for cool weather better performance. But mean while I've tried a little bit of stronger octane fuel this past month. We don't have the 93 octane unleaded fuel. Sinclair Gas Station here in Indio, CA does. Sunoco 100 Octane Unleaded Racing Fuel. My combination is: This vehicle has a 18.5 gal. stock fuel cell. I pour 9.250 gals. x 91 Octane unleaded = 841.75 then 9.250 gal. x 100 Octane unleaded = 925.00. Add 841.75 + 925.00 = 1766.75. Divide 1766.75 by 18.5 gal. fuel capacity = 95.50 Octane. Little over 93 Octane gave me little more throttle edge response in Very Hot Weather. Feels like more HP. Keep Safe!! Your sitting on a WILD Horse.
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Originally Posted by Jsilvester81
therefore 2017 turboS is no match for a 2017 c7 z06/z07 M7 on a road course.

Red neck Chevy is the better all around performer

lap times don't lie.
Old 08-01-2017, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsilvester81
therefore 2017 turboS is no match for a 2017 c7 z06/z07 M7 on a road course.

Red neck Chevy is the better all around performer

lap times don't lie.
Yup your right on, they see this end of my car most often



BTW, over 2 years of track time and in the 90's at times and NEVER a limp. All without the GM extra radiator too with my M7. You may say it all depends on lap times. Well google 2:04 at Watkins Glen full course, this car runs at 10-10ths! Enjoy your Z's guys!
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Hello! Phoenix, Arizona. Beautiful color don't see too many around. Yes! Hot weather can effect all vehicles just a little. Well when my Corvette Z06 hits 220 degrees or operating temperature everything works just fine. But 91 octane is not 93 octane especially during summertime here hot fuel pumped in that 6.2 Liter supercharged engine mixed with hot air jammed in the cylinders from that 1.7 L Eaton supercharger. Besides 93 Octane is what the vehicle calls for. I started to use higher octane fuel. (unleaded only). The Corvette Z06 factory fuel cell capacity is 18.5 gals. I use 9.250 gals. x 91 octane = 841.75 Then I use 9.250 gals. x 100 octane = 925.00. Add 841.75 + 925.00 = 1766.75 divide that by 18.5 gal fuel tank = 95.5 Octane. I by Sunoco 100 octane (unleaded race fuel). Gives quicker throttle response for me in that heat. Maintain that Octane. Drive Safe!

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Old 08-02-2017, 02:48 AM
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my z's engine temp hits 220F for normal driving as well. up to what temp is ok for the car?

any idea how many hp difference between 91 and 93? and1/4 time
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That's right empire state you tell them. Let me give you some 2015 Corvette Z06 / Z07 results from the West Coast California. Big Willow Springs stock vehicle (Head 2 Head) Times. 2.5 mile course.
2015 Corvette Z06 1:25.00 , 2016 Lambo Huracan 1:25.17, 2015 Nissan GTR Nismo 1:25.70, 2015 McLaren 650S 1:25.88, 2017 Corvette Grand Sport 1:26.28, 2016 AMG GTS 1:27.04, 2017 Porsche 911 Carrera S 1:27.10, 2015 Porsche 911 Turbo S 1:27.17, 2017 Porsche 911 GT3 1:27.22 and the list keeps going with factory vehicles individual costs from the 100k range to 1 million dollar range with less performance that you would not believe.

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Old 08-02-2017, 03:28 AM
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here you go http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs

and this one http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/autozeitung-test-track

Man the clutch sticking problem still exist in C7 right? got my car few months ago and heard about the problem. They should add that to the overheating lawsuit. I mean clutch will stick or can't shift into gears? and you need to change the clutch fluid so often if you launch and do high rpm shifts often. I mean it's a sports car who doesn't launch or do high rpm shifts. and manual says change the fluid every 3 years. If you follow the manual or people that don't know. You will have all kinds of clutch problem during the 3 years. (and dangerous if you never change the fluid and just follow the manual) I mean it's brand new car what do you mean I need to change the clutch fluid already.

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Old 08-02-2017, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by doorucik
Hello everyone from Palm Desert, CA. 2016 Chevrolet Corvette C7 Z06/Z07 3LZ. Yes! Automatic for vehicles over 100k. Yes! Black on Black color. Did I mention how hot it gets here during the summer. Try July or August 116 to 122. Oh! Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2's will warm up in a minute on the ashalpt here. Took vehicle to drag strip see how quick/fast it is in Fontana, CA. Let professional driver make only one pass. Again the track surface is very hot that day. Oh about 102. No burn-out. In drive and sport mode. 10.257 ET (10.30) @ 136.20 mph. The driver told me now that I know the character of vehicle I'm sure I can do better. I said that will do. After-all this Z06 is Z07 Track Car. It is 102 out there. Were talking about vehicle tolerance. Ok next. Daily driving! Yes I met-up with a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat and yes it went down! I waved just go! the second I herd his supercharger whine I slammed the pedal to the metal. His vehicle fell two car lengths in a flash. We tried that 3 more times. Same thing. No overheating or vehicle going into any Limp Mode. But most of all I drive around in that very HOT weather. Air conditioning on in traffic. BLACK color vehicle 122 outside temp. Yes I go thru Automatic Paddle Shifters in pretty good RPM's no problem! I would give this vehicle Five Stars ***** Performance for the 11 months driving. Change oil at break-in 500 miles and I changed oil again at 1650 miles because the Corvette Z06 earned it. Will follow-up to any questions. Enjoy your Corvette Z06. Take care of it. It will take care of all your races.
You have a 2016 before the enhancements for cooling were out for the 2017 models and you have an automatic. Hard to believe you did not have any overheating problems.
Old 08-02-2017, 09:30 AM
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You have a 2016 before the enhancements for cooling were out for the 2017 models and you have an automatic. Hard to believe you did not have any overheating problems.
He wasn't running on a track. Yes, heavy street duty, but the track is a whole other story.
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Well all depends on the weather. If you got perfect weather 70 to 76. 91 Octane vs. 93 Octane (unleaded) the computer program will adjust. You always got 650 hp on the table ready. In my case Very Hot weather all I can find is 91 Octane. But I like to mix. Hot fuel and Hot air mixed together in a 6.2 L Supercharged engine and 1.7 L Eaton SC does not work for optimum horsepower. I use 9 1/4 gals. 91 Octane. and 9 1/4 gals. 100 Octane (unleaded) and get 95.5 Octane to compensate for 650 hp or maybe 675 hp now. More responsiveness.

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I see so 91 and 93 both get 650hp, so why do you need 95.5?
Old 08-03-2017, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Jsilvester81
yes.

also put car in stealth mode drive 60mph on hwy in 1st for a for 10 min. Check temps.
What the heck is stealth mode?

Originally Posted by doorucik
Hello everyone from Palm Desert, CA. 2016 Chevrolet Corvette C7 Z06/Z07 3LZ. Yes! Automatic for vehicles over 100k. Yes! Black on Black color. Did I mention how hot it gets here during the summer. Try July or August 116 to 122. Oh! Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2's will warm up in a minute on the ashalpt here. Took vehicle to drag strip see how quick/fast it is in Fontana, CA. Let professional driver make only one pass. Again the track surface is very hot that day. Oh about 102. No burn-out. In drive and sport mode. 10.257 ET (10.30) @ 136.20 mph. The driver told me now that I know the character of vehicle I'm sure I can do better. I said that will do. After-all this Z06 is Z07 Track Car. It is 102 out there. Were talking about vehicle tolerance. Ok next. Daily driving! Yes I met-up with a 2016 Challenger SRT Hellcat and yes it went down! I waved just go! the second I herd his supercharger whine I slammed the pedal to the metal. His vehicle fell two car lengths in a flash. We tried that 3 more times. Same thing. No overheating or vehicle going into any Limp Mode. But most of all I drive around in that very HOT weather. Air conditioning on in traffic. BLACK color vehicle 122 outside temp. Yes I go thru Automatic Paddle Shifters in pretty good RPM's no problem! I would give this vehicle Five Stars ***** Performance for the 11 months driving. Change oil at break-in 500 miles and I changed oil again at 1650 miles because the Corvette Z06 earned it. Will follow-up to any questions. Enjoy your Corvette Z06. Take care of it. It will take care of all your races.
Your car isn't stock and a 1/4 mile run shouldn't cause overheating. It's not like a Tesla.
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Originally Posted by doorucik
Well all depends on the weather. If you got perfect weather 70 to 76. 91 Octane vs. 93 Octane (unleaded) the computer program will adjust. You always got 650 hp on the table ready. In my case Very Hot weather all I can find is 91 Octane. But I like to mix. Hot fuel and Hot air mix together in a 6.2 L Supercharged engine and 1.7 L Eaton SC does not work for optimum horsepower. I use 9 1/4 gals. 91 Octane. and 9 1/4 gals. 100 Octane (unleaded) and get 95.5 Octane to compensate for 650 hp or maybe 675 hp now. More responsiveness.
If the car "tunes up" for higher octane then 93 and it's stock, then it is an EPA violation on GM's part. I highly doubt the engine adjusts for octane above 93 octane. Even the Demon has to have a different ECU for 100 octane.
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Originally Posted by Thomasmoto
He wasn't running on a track. Yes, heavy street duty, but the track is a whole other story.
I understand again HEAT is all of our problems. I did mention I drive around here in the desert in lower California. Using Automatic Paddle Shifters with long RPM's. We do have long straight-a-ways and turns here better than Big Willow Springs Race Course which is in the Mohave Desert, CA. I talk to some 2015 and 2016 Z06 owners at the TRACK to find out how its done. From what I saw is: 1. Z06 got there on enclosed trailer. Trailer has A/C working all-day. Canopy over work area. 2. All they practice is keeping car cold. Ice on supercharger, 1/3 tank full of Cold fuel half 91 and half 100 octane. (unleaded). The five gallon race type fuel cans sit in A/C all-day. A/C ducts blowing on Transmissons and Clutches. Extra Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2's. Some like manual 7 speed. Some like Automatic 8 speed. Nobody complained about anything. All Stock. Run three laps maybe four and come in rest / talk do it again. Keeping things cool is the way to go. The Z06 is a semi-race car with the luxury of a street car.

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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
If the car "tunes up" for higher octane then 93 and it's stock, then it is an EPA violation on GM's part. I highly doubt the engine adjusts for octane above 93 octane. Even the Demon has to have a different ECU for 100 octane.
Well I still mix during very hot weather better being 2 Octane over than 2 Octane under. In the 3 months here we got maybe 75 to 76 degree weather then I will adjust again. 93 Octane is the standard number. But the ECU sensor intake air temperature is versatile to a point. I like to maintain 650 hp. AiM infotech. ECU control unit: Controls a series of actuators.

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I see so 91 and 93 both get 650hp, so why do you need 95.5?
To compensate for extreme hot weather. 93 Octane in cool weather is best.

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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
What the heck is stealth mode?



Your car isn't stock and a 1/4 mile run shouldn't cause overheating. It's not like a Tesla.
Yes. Vehicle is stock. Thinking witch way to go next with it. Tesla runs 10.8's not bad for Electric Car.

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Originally Posted by okaythen
my z's engine temp hits 220F for normal driving as well. up to what temp is ok for the car?

any idea how many hp difference between 91 and 93? and1/4 time
262 is when the car over heats. 220 is nothing, car will run like a raped ape at a 220 coolant temp. What is your oil temp that is more important than coolant temp. That should be less than 300.

On track in low 90 degree heat I see mid 220 coolant temps and mid 270s oil temps. Car runs fine at those temps.

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