C7_Z06

Fair enough for your opinion... although IMO I would likely take the GT350 over a C7 Stingray Z51... but certainly not over a C7 Z06.

0Bobby @ LG Motorsports

Me too! To make it a fare comparison, I would take two gt350s over one c7z.

OnPoint

Yeah, it looks like Ford significantly amped up the brake components on this rig. Should prove more durable, with lower consumable costs than CCBs. Looks like a potentially very nice trackable set-up.

3 Z06ZR1

I'm happy with my C7Z06 and would never trade it for any Mustang.
The cars are not close. The Mustang is a muscle car and really doesn't compare to the Z06.

Daisuke149

mustangs were primarily pony cars actually. but they have graduated from that a long while ago.

But at a starting price of 47k, it was never supposed to compete with a z06. All of us trying to compare it to one are just looking for a reason to pat ourselves on the back.

Although, if you were to tell me I could have one and only one car, I would pick the Gt350 (non R) and do all the tech and track upgrades while retaining the back seats.

But since I can have multiple cars, its the z06 for me + i may actually get a gt350 as an everyday car.

KemahGT

Okay, so the last year was 2013, but you can still find the E90/92/93 M3 BMWs in pretty good shape with low miles. It was good for 8300RPM.

four0nefive

Ford's goal wasn't to make the GT350 faster than a Z06 so your statement makes no sense at all. Also, just because it's a muscle car doesn't mean it sucks around a track. Look at the Z28, SS 1LE, Boss 302, etc.

SBC_and_a_stick

GM does have track worthy cars, the Z28 and every V8 Camaro starting in 2016 complete with dedicated transmission cooler up front and 3 radiators. I'm not sure why GM shafted us C7 owners so hard on track cooling in general (auto transmission, all engines, z06 powersteering, Z51 exhaust solenoids, and to some extent even the steel brakes can't cool enough).

Z06 does great lap time records. However, that's relatively a small portion of what track driving is about. A good track car is fun to drive and reliable. A Porsche Cayenne can probably do a great lap time once, but it's hardly a track car. If the Mustang can reliably be driven hard I can see it pulling away the best of the drivers from Chevy. No doubt.

SBC_and_a_stick

There's also Audi, with it's 8,250 rpm 4.2 V8. That engine made it into some very pedestrian looking vehicles.

Unreal

People have different needs out of a car. I have a 2012 GT and a 2006 z06, and if I had to take only one it would be the mustang all day. Not even close for what I need and enjoy out of a car.

RC000E

Strangely I look right past Z28 without thinking. There is one thing I've observed over the years...via SEMA, via various auto shows, via the aftermarket...Ford does a WAY better job at marketing performance than GM does. GM has a disconnect with younger buyers that they can't seem to close. I see it in SO many tactics used by either manufacturer. Ford does it better...period. They hook up with people who mod, who drift, who have fun and who build cars passionately. Gm is trying to take this Porsche approach to the conservative mindset and suits, but inevitably holds the retiree as the premier buyer.

Corvettes sell...I'll give them that...I suppose you don't want to mess with a "good" thing but...disrupters can come at any time. In addition, I think other car companies know what GM will do, based upon where their targets often are. Once there are so many choices in the market, and many spell fun/track monster...eventually the Corvette enthusiasm will fade as the demographics who love them die off. Corvette's aren't even on the radar in the groups I hang out with...not even close.

Deuuuce

I love how people keep calling it a boat when its within 100lbs of a Z06 and a platform designed for 4 seats. Hilarious.

Swept area and cooling were other factors, not just pistons.

Was it a flat plane?

If the RS5 and R8 are "very pedestrian looking"? Those were the only cars with the 450hp V8 that I can recall. Unless the 330hp revved to 8250? I can't recall but it was sure smooth.

The V8 in the R8 sounds AMAZING. So good you almost don't care its slower than the V10. I lapped both the same day at MRLS. Fell in love driving that car.

KemahGT

Who cares! I'll take an 8000+ V8 any way I can get it!

bladex10

The GT350 is what the C7Z should have been. Sorry but its true. Its funny how times have changed. When the C6Z came out, Mustang was a heavy supercharged car that would get manhandled by the lightweight NA powered C6Z. Now its the GT350 that is the lightweight(its a 4 seater within 100 lbs of the C7Z) NA car and the C7Z is the heavy pig with a overheating supercharged motor.

I'm just imagining a NA 8200 RPM FPC motor lightweight C7Z with a proper DCT and its depressing to think about how awesome that car wouldve been.

U2Slow

I agree.
I have to agree when facts are true which some people on here just will not admit.
Chevy has some work to do and improvements to do before I buy one and I will. I want one so bad but will not buy product that is not ready for what they say it can do. (Slightly over promised and under delivered for racing purposes and for street normal driving the car is probably going to make happy 90% of those that baby their cars and just have one for looks and showing off while never pressing more than 50% of throttle. Trust me, I will own one but it will probably be 2017-2018 model till Chevy decide to fix issues that they won't admit that exist. Another reason ring times are not released probably because they are not where they should be.
However, I recently sold my c6z06 hoping to get c7z06 and instead of buying 2015 Z06 I bought 2013 GTR (now 650 whp which creamed few 2015 z06 at the local track. Honestly haven't seen one stock in Florida yet running 10 but maybe when it cools off this winter. One ran 11.3 and other was 11.6 range).

The point is, Chevy has some work to do to improve this amazing, capable machine and till then, I will comfortably be destroying 99% of challengers with my bolt on GTR.

Lastly, I will have one in my garage when issues are fixed.

But as far as mustang, my daily driver is 2015 gt 5.0 which I have considered trading for gt350 maybe at some point in the near future once I test drive one.

Both cars very capable, different category - different price range, but we will see how they compare soon.

Either way, no shame in considering gt350 but i am Chevy guy and having a corvette is a must as well.

I hope soon I will have all 3 in my stable.

TARANTULA

What your are describing is a 170k dollar corvette.

bladex10

Screw the DCT then, Use the current C7Z slushbox with a NA FPC high revving motor and shed a few pounds off it. You'd have your true C6z predecessor right there.

sky1

I am sure the new 350r is going to bring a premium price over msrp. Call me stupid but I still love the Z28 over the Mustang.
I think GM is full of crap about not making a NA motor emissions legal. Ford is doing it with mustang and dodge is doing it with the viper. GM could have pumped the LS7 to 454 and got it 530-550 hp and made the C7 Z06 more of a track weapon.
The new gt350 r looks like an awesome track weapon, and I think it will be interesting to see what the Mustang does compared to the competition

MaynardZed

Being a BMW fan, this is why I'm intrigued with the new GT350. Sadly BMW never put this engine in any of its street cars. The S55 thats in my M4 is a great engine but its no flat plane crank V8...

3 Z06ZR1

Sure it makes sense. How do they compare . Z06 is faster in any contest track or straight line only has two seats. Different class of car. They don't compare
well. Try matching with the Camaro.