Difference between AFE and HALLTECH CAI
Instructor
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From: PA
I think he meant 1K difference on the expensive as he Carbon Fiber version of the Halltech
Instructor
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From: Parkland Fl
AFE currently claims about 46 hp for their intake with their highest flow filter. Not sure what they claimed before the -1 modification was released.
Diablo dyno'ed Sharkgray's Z to be about 40 hp above stock with the AFE installed which is pretty close to AFE's claim. Not sure if Sharkgray had the lower restriction oiled filter. If not that could account for the 6 hp difference. Regardless 6hp is within normal variance for these test.
To clarify Sharkgray's comments in his last post. Diablo didn't find much additional power by tuning for the AFE vs the stock tune and the AFE. They did gain some mid range tq but practically nothing for hp.
Diablo verified they did in fact try to lean out the afr further than the AFE does on its own but didn't gain much by doing so.
This confirmed the AFE system was pretty much at the limit of what one can expect from a CAI.
Diablo dyno'ed Sharkgray's Z to be about 40 hp above stock with the AFE installed which is pretty close to AFE's claim. Not sure if Sharkgray had the lower restriction oiled filter. If not that could account for the 6 hp difference. Regardless 6hp is within normal variance for these test.
To clarify Sharkgray's comments in his last post. Diablo didn't find much additional power by tuning for the AFE vs the stock tune and the AFE. They did gain some mid range tq but practically nothing for hp.
Diablo verified they did in fact try to lean out the afr further than the AFE does on its own but didn't gain much by doing so.
This confirmed the AFE system was pretty much at the limit of what one can expect from a CAI.
Last edited by Sharkgray; Dec 1, 2015 at 09:05 PM.
Burning Brakes
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From: Chino Hills CA
Hey Shark, that is good stuff right there. Diablo did right by you and gave you the honest truth...kinda hard to find true ***** in this, or any other business at the moment. I am glad to hear success stories like yours!
Thanks for the rundown.
Thanks for the rundown.
Burning Brakes
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From: Chino Hills CA
I do not want to go e85 due to availability, or lack of, better said. 91 pump would be my preference. 732 to the rear wheels is right in the wheel house. What all did you do to the Z to achieve those #'s?
I would be very interested.
Thanks,
-Ron in SoCal
Racer
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Thus more air flow.
Drifting
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" I think it also has a larger filter element
Thus more air flow."
Can someone confirm this? I *think* I recall reading somewhere that the AFE filter flows only like 3xx CFM and the Haltech flows like 6xx CFM. Who knows for sure? Probably doesn't matter much for a basic mods car but it might make a sizable difference if someone is looking to push more serious power.
Thus more air flow."
Can someone confirm this? I *think* I recall reading somewhere that the AFE filter flows only like 3xx CFM and the Haltech flows like 6xx CFM. Who knows for sure? Probably doesn't matter much for a basic mods car but it might make a sizable difference if someone is looking to push more serious power.
Team Owner
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From: salem OR
Nope...not like me to be ignorant before making a decision. I watched just about every install video available before my decision. I also paid VERY close attention to where Halltech does not recommend anyone but a professional install because of the 'modifications that are necessary. I also looked at what people thought of the installation procedures historically and.....when all that is said and done, I chose Afe and enlisted my opinion why when someone asked...
Halltech: We highly recommend professional installation. The airbox is sealed, but is much larger than stock to promote better airflow, but it requires moving some of the engine bay components, and some modification.
Halltech: We highly recommend professional installation. The airbox is sealed, but is much larger than stock to promote better airflow, but it requires moving some of the engine bay components, and some modification.
The halltech leaves the stock A/F in better shape some AFE's installs needed tunes.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; Dec 1, 2015 at 10:26 PM.
Team Owner
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From: salem OR
Clowns? This was pretty straight forward and I wouldn't ever refer to him as a clown. I mean it isn't like he hasn't been here since 03 and has over 3k posts...don't ya think?
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...pcv-valve.html
As it stands, you are taking a side and using the 2014 version of AFe's CAI as your basis of comparison...nice try.
I tell you what... if Halltech wants to send me his CAI, I will install both...and publish an article speaking to which was an easier install and if this is a viable option for the average Joe to tackle themselves. We know where that's going right?
Let's put this to rest...they are both great upgrades that are a relatively easy install...
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...pcv-valve.html
As it stands, you are taking a side and using the 2014 version of AFe's CAI as your basis of comparison...nice try.
I tell you what... if Halltech wants to send me his CAI, I will install both...and publish an article speaking to which was an easier install and if this is a viable option for the average Joe to tackle themselves. We know where that's going right?
Let's put this to rest...they are both great upgrades that are a relatively easy install...
You need to read the thread you posted! Funny stuff!Just what I was talking about he never got it on and advertised it for sale more than once.
Last edited by 3 Z06ZR1; Dec 2, 2015 at 12:03 AM.
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From: Cape Coral FL
OP, They are both great CAIs, I have the Halltech I did the install myself may have taken about an hour in my garage doing it myself and took my time triple checking everything, I am sure I could do it now in 30 to 40 min. I got a great deal from a vendor here. PM me if you want details. I have been dealing with Jim for years I had his CAIs on a couple of my C6s, The main reason is Jim has always been right there for me with any questions I have had one of his intakes on my C6 had an issue he sent out a new part overnight with no questions asked. Customer service means a lot to me. I can for sure feel a difference in response and midrange feels stronger in my Butt-O-Meter. You do have to cut a line but the newer install video is a clean install the hardest part for me was getting the silicone over the TB It was a tight squeeze.Good luck both are great Intakes.
Burning Brakes
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From: Chino Hills CA
You can't go wrong with either! It all comes down to preference and personal dealings with either company.
I chose aFe because of their customer service and proximity to me. I bought one of the original systems back in May of 2015. I did not initially install the system because my car had warranty work that needed to be taken care of. I am now going to install the system and remembered aFe revised their airbox. I emailed aFe and the new revised parts are being shipped to me. A very painless process. aFe's customer service is why I am their customer. I am sure Halltech has GREAT customer service too, but you can't run both intake systems at the same time!
-Ron
I chose aFe because of their customer service and proximity to me. I bought one of the original systems back in May of 2015. I did not initially install the system because my car had warranty work that needed to be taken care of. I am now going to install the system and remembered aFe revised their airbox. I emailed aFe and the new revised parts are being shipped to me. A very painless process. aFe's customer service is why I am their customer. I am sure Halltech has GREAT customer service too, but you can't run both intake systems at the same time!
-Ron